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`UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT
`DISTRICT OF DELAWARE
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` Chapter 11
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`Case No. 19-10289 (LSS)
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`Jointly Administered
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`In re:
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`IMERYS TALC AMERICA, et al.,
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`Debtors.
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`CERTAIN INSURERS’ EVIDENTIARY OBJECTIONS TO DIRECT TESTIMONY
`DECLARATION OF MAURA KOLB IN SUPPORT OF CONFIRMATION OF SECOND
`JOINT PLAN OF REORGANIZATION OF IMERYS TALC AMERICA, INC. AND ITS
`DEBTOR AFFILIATES UNDER CHAPTER 11 OF THE BANKRUPTCY CODE
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`Certain Insurers listed in the signature blocks below hereby assert the following
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`objections to the direct testimony declaration of Maura Kolb in Support of Confirmation of Second
`Joint Plan of Reorganization of Imerys Talc America, Inc. and its Debtor Affiliates Under Chapter
`11 of the Bankruptcy Code submitted by Plan Proponents.
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`A.
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`General Objection(s):
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`Certain Insurers re-raise the arguments set forth in their motion in limine (D.I. 7203)
`1.
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`with respect to the exclusion of testimony by Ms. Kolb regarding specifics from the negotiations
`and the drafting processes of the Plan and TDPs because Ms. Kolb declined, on the basis of
`privilege, to answer questions regarding the details of those negotiations and drafting processes
`during her deposition taken on January 30, 2025.1 Because Ms. Kolb declined to respond to
`follow-up questions regarding the negotiations and drafting processes, Certain Insurers were
`prevented from testing the veracity of Ms. Kolb’s conclusory statements as to the nature of the
`negotiations and how the various parties interacted during negotiations. That is an inappropriate
`use of privilege, first as a shield, then as a sword during trial because Certain Insurers are now
`prevented from effectively crossing Ms. Kolb on those topics.
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`B.
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`Specific Objections:
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`Declaration
`5. it is the Committee’s position that the
`Imerys Plan represents a reasonable
`resolution of the Imerys Debtors’ liabilities
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`1 See Exhibit A, Jan. 30, 2025 Deposition Transcript of M. Kolb (“Kolb Dep. Tr.”) at 25:13-26:12;
`29:4-30:3; 30:11-31:1-25; and 68:17-69:12 (Ms. Kolb declined to discuss any details regarding the
`specifics of the Plan and TDP negotiations).
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`Objection
`Improper lay opinion
`(FRE 701). Improper
`opinion on an
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`and contains a fair and equitable distribution
`of assets to holders of Talc Personal Injury
`Claims.
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`5. The Imerys Plan reflects a resolution that
`is the product of extensive negotiations
`among the Imerys Debtors, Imerys S.A., the
`Committee, and the Future Claims
`Representative (“FCR”) (collectively, the
`“Imerys Plan Proponents”).
`6. The Imerys Debtors’ Joint Chapter 11
`Plan of Reorganization of Imerys Talc
`America, Inc. and Its Debtor Affiliates [D.I.
`1714] (the “Prior Plan”) was filed in 2020
`and reflected an agreement that was the
`result of negotiations by and among the
`Imerys Plan Proponents.
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`7. With the aid of mediations conducted by
`Lawrence Pollack, the Imerys Plan
`Proponents were also able to reach
`agreements with Rio Tinto and with Cyprus
`Amax Minerals Corporation (“CAMC”) . . .
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`12. The third-party releases contained in the
`Imerys Plan are the result of negotiations
`between and among the Imerys Plan
`Proponents and/or between the Imerys Plan
`Proponents and third parties contributing to
`the Trust (the “Releases”).
`16. Ultimately, the Imerys Plan is the result
`of lengthy negotiations among various
`parties and their professionals all focused on
`the goal of achieving a fair and equitable
`resolution of these Chapter 11 Cases.
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`ultimate issue (FRE
`704). Legal
`conclusion (FRE
`701-702). Hearsay
`(FRE 802).
`Improper lay opinion
`(FRE 701).
`Mediation privilege
`asserted during
`deposition (FRE
`501).2
`No personal
`knowledge, lack of
`foundation (FRE
`602). Improper lay
`opinion (FRE 701).
`Mediation privilege
`asserted during
`deposition (FRE
`501).3
`Improper lay opinion
`(FRE 701).
`Mediation privilege
`asserted during
`deposition (FRE
`501).4
`Improper lay opinion
`(FRE 701).
`Mediation privilege
`asserted during
`deposition (FRE
`501).5
`Improper lay opinion
`(FRE 701). No
`personal knowledge,
`lack of foundation
`(FRE 602). Legal
`conclusion (FRE
`701-702). Mediation
`privilege asserted
`during deposition
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`2 See id.
`3 See id.
`4 See id.
`5 See id.
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`16. Given the numerous parties involved
`and their vastly divergent interests, it is the
`Committee’s position that the Imerys Plan
`reflects a significant accomplishment.
`17. It is the Committee’s position that the
`Imerys TDP represents a reasonable
`structure to allow for resolution of Talc
`Personal Injury Claims to ensure that funds
`provided to the Trust for resolution of such
`claims are fairly distributed to holders of
`such claims.
`19. During mediation sessions among the
`Imerys Plan Proponents and the Cyprus
`Plan Proponents, the Committee also
`discussed its views and position on the TDP
`and listened to the views of the Cyprus Plan
`Proponents.
`20. The Scheduled, Average, and Maximum
`Values for OC claims were discussed within
`the Committee. During Committee
`meetings, Committee members participated
`in discussions about claim values by
`expressing their opinions and concerns
`about proposed values based upon their
`experience and guidance of counsel, and the
`advice and guidance of the Committee’s
`other advisors including its estimation
`experts.
`21. With respect to Mesothelioma claims,
`the Scheduled, Average, and Maximum
`Values were discussed within the
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`(FRE 501).6 Calls
`for speculation re
`various parties’ state
`of mind.
`Hearsay (FER 802).
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`Improper lay opinion
`(FRE 701). Improper
`opinion on an
`ultimate issue (FRE
`704). Hearsay (FRE
`802).
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`Mediation privilege
`asserted during
`depositions (FRE
`501).7
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`Privilege asserted
`during depositions
`(FRE 501).8
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`Privilege asserted
`during depositions
`(FRE 501).9
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`6 See id.
`7 See id.
`8 See Kolb Dep. Trans. at 29:4-30:3 (referred us to interrogatory responses); see also Exhibit B,
`Imerys TCC’s Responses and Objections to Interrogatories at 12-13 (response to Interrogatory No.
`7 regarding OC claims only states Committee members “participated in discussions by expressing
`their opinions and concerns about the proposed values based upon their experience and guidance
`of counsel”).
`9 Id.; see also Exhibit B, Imerys TCC’s Responses and Objections to Interrogatories at 12-13
`(response to Interrogatory No. 7 regarding Mesothelioma claims only states “the Scheduled,
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`Committee and were informed, in part, by
`analyses conducted by the Committee’s
`valuation expert.
`22. As for the Scheduled, Average, and
`Maximum Values for Lung Cancer Claims,
`the Committee discussed proposed values
`and was informed by, among other things,
`the historical values of Lung Cancer Claims
`in other bankruptcy trusts.
`23. Additionally, during mediation sessions
`among the Imerys Plan Proponents and the
`Cyprus Plan Proponents parties addressed
`their respective positions on Scheduled,
`Average, and Maximum Values for all
`claims that are compensable under the
`Trust.
`24. In structuring the Original TDP,
`Committee members discussed the
`allocation of funds between Fund A and
`Fund B. During Committee meetings,
`Committee members expressed their
`opinions and concerns about the proposed
`allocation based upon their experience and
`with the guidance of counsel.
`25. After coming to an agreement within the
`Committee on the allocation of Trust assets,
`the Committee, through its professionals,
`advised the Imerys FCR of its position and
`requested feedback. Likewise, Committee
`professionals informed the Imerys Debtors
`of the Committee’s position and requested
`feedback from the Imerys Debtors.
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`Privilege asserted
`during depositions
`(FRE 501).10
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`Mediation privilege
`asserted during
`depositions (FRE
`501).11
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`Privilege asserted
`during depositions
`(FRE 501).12
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`Mediation privilege
`asserted during
`depositions (FRE
`501).13
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`Average, and Maximum Values were discussed within the Committee and were informed, in part,
`by analyses conducted by the Committee’s expert”).
`10 Id. at 30:11-31:6 (referred us to interrogatory responses); see also Exhibit B, Imerys TCC’s
`Responses and Objections to Interrogatories at 12-13 (response to Interrogatory No. 7 regarding
`Lung Cancer claims only states “the Committee discussed the historic value of Lung Cancer
`Claims in other bankruptcy trusts”).
`11 Id.; see also Exhibit B, Imerys TCC’s Responses and Objections to Interrogatories at 12-13
`(response to Interrogatory No. 7 simply stated that “[d]uring mediation sessions among the Plan
`Proponents and the Cyprus Plan Proponents, the Committee also stated its position on Scheduled,
`Average, and Maximum Values for all claims that are compensable under the trust”).
`12 Id. at 68:17-69:12 (Ms. Kolb declined to provide any details beyond the conclusory statements
`that allocation was the result of negotiations through mediation).
`13 Id.
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`26. During mediation sessions among the
`Imerys Plan Proponents and the Cyprus
`Plan Proponents, counsel for the Committee
`also discussed its position on the allocation
`of Trust assets.
`27. The Committee and its professionals
`considered many different alternatives
`before agreeing to the current allocation of
`Trust assets. The different alternatives to the
`allocation of Trust assets that the
`Committee considered included:
` Allocating Trust Assets to claimants
`on a pro rata basis;
` Allocating Trust Assets in
`percentages other than the proposed
`allocation of Talc Personal Injury
`Assets between Fund A and Fund B;
` Allowing claimants with different
`levels of disease to be eligible for
`compensation pursuant to the TDP;
` Allowing foreign claims to be
`eligible for compensation pursuant
`to the TDP;
` Allocating assets according to the
`40/40/20 structure proposed under
`the Prior Plan;
` Creating separate trusts for the
`Imerys Debtors and the Cyprus
`Debtors that would be funded by
`each estate rather than one trust
`containing the mechanism of the
`Dual Estate Factor;
` Allocating Trust Assets by
`classifying mesothelioma cosmetic
`A and B claims and mesothelioma
`industrial A and B claims into
`different funds; and
`Incorporating Lung Cancer claims in
`the same fund as Mesothelioma
`claims.
`28. Under the TDP, it is the Committee’s
`position that the allocation of funds between
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`Mediation privilege
`asserted during
`depositions (FRE
`501).14
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`Mediation privilege
`asserted during
`depositions (FRE
`501).15
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`Improper lay opinion
`(FRE 701). Privilege
`asserted during
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`14 Id.
`15 Id.
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`depositions (FRE
`501).16 Hearsay (FRE
`802).
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`Privilege asserted
`during depositions
`(FRE 501).17 Hearsay
`(FRE 802).
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`Fund A and Fund B is appropriate based on
`several factors:
` The number of claims asserted
`against the Imerys Debtors;
` The types of claims asserted against
`the Imerys Debtors;
` The value of assets to be contributed
`to the Trust following the Effective
`Date;
` The status of talc litigation in the
`tort system;
` The number of individuals expected
`to claim against the trust based on
`the disease asserted;
` The number of current and expected
`claims based on the nature of the
`talc or talc-containing products;
` The Imerys Debtors’ claims
`database;
` Developments in the multidistrict
`litigation involving J&J, among
`other parties;
` The need to obtain a consenting
`class of individuals in favor of the P;
` Requirements in Bankruptcy Code
`section 524(g); and
` Relevant legal precedent from the
`Third Circuit Court of Appeals and
`otherwise within the Third Circuit.
`29. After deliberations within the
`Committee and the Committee’s
`discussions, through its professionals, with
`the Imerys Plan Proponents and Cyprus
`Plan Proponents during mediation sessions,
`the concept of Other Disease Claims was
`discussed for inclusion in the TDP. The
`Committee based its decision to support the
`addition of Other Disease Claims to the
`TDP on several factors, including:
` Allowing additional diseases to be
`recognized by a trust is a common
`feature of mass tort trusts;
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`16 Id.
`17 Id. at 29:4-30:3, 30:11-31:6.
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`Privilege asserted
`during depositions
`(FRE 501).18 Hearsay
`(FRE 802).
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` Talc litigation in the tort system is in
`its infancy. It is not clear at this time
`what other personal injuries
`exposure to talc or talc-containing
`products may cause; and
` The science examining the effects of
`talc on the human body is in its early
`stages. If it is determined that
`additional diseases may be attributed
`to talc, the Committee believed there
`should be procedures set forth to
`allow individuals with Other
`Disease Claims to be compensated
`under the strict criteria set forth in
`the Individual Review Process. See
`TDP § 5.2(b)(vii).
`30. Similarly, upon further consideration by
`the Committee and discussion among the
`Imerys Plan Proponents through Mediation
`after the Imerys Debtors elected not to
`proceed with the Prior Plan, Lung Cancer
`Claims were made compensable under the
`TDP. The Committee decided to support the
`addition of Lung Cancer Claims as
`compensable under the TDP based on
`several factors, including:
` Lung Cancer Claims had been
`asserted against the Cyprus Debtor,
`which claims would be channeled
`into the combined Trust;
` Certain claims in the Imerys
`Debtors’ claims database that were
`originally identified as
`mesothelioma claims were, upon
`further inspection by the Imerys
`Debtors, identified as Lung Cancer
`Claims (See Disclosure Statement §
`4.1(d));
` On information and belief, J&J
`entered into settlements with
`individuals asserting Lung Cancer
`Claims;
` On information and belief, Lung
`Cancer Claims have become more
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`18 Id. at 29:4-30:3, 30:11-31:6.
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`common in talc-related litigation
`since the Petition Date; and
` On information and belief,
`individuals asserted claims in the
`tort system alleging that use of J&J’s
`talc caused their lung cancer.
`30. On information and belief, Lung Cancer
`Claims have become more common in talc-
`related litigation since the Petition Date.
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`31. The Dual Estate Factor was proposed
`due to the fact that the Trust, as structured,
`required two different sets of debtors to
`combine their assets into a single trust for
`allocation among various sub-trusts.
`33. It is the Committee’s position that the
`Trust, and by extension the TDP, is designed
`to provide individuals with Talc Personal
`Injury Claims a way to resolve their claims
`in a manner that treats similarly situated
`individuals consistently and in accordance
`with the Bankruptcy Code.
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`Improper lay opinion
`(FRE 701). No
`personal knowledge,
`no foundation (FRE
`602). Hearsay (FRE
`802).
`No personal
`knowledge, no
`foundation (FRE
`602).
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`Improper lay opinion
`(FRE 701). Improper
`opinion on an
`ultimate issue (FRE
`704). Hearsay (FRE
`802).
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`DATED: April 21, 2025
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`/s/ Stamatios Stamoulis
`By:
`Stamatios Stamoulis (#4606)
`STAMOULIS & WEINBLATT LLC
`800 N. West Street
`Third Floor
`Wilmington, Delaware 19801
`Telephone: (302) 999-1540
`E-mail: stamoulis@swdelaw.com
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`Andrew Frackman (pro hac vice)
`Tancred Schiavoni (pro hac vice)
`Adam Haberkorn (pro had vice)
`O’MELVENY & MYERS LLP
`1301 Avenue of the Americas, 17th Floor
`New York, New York 10019
`Telephone: 212 326 2000
`E-mail: afrackman@omm.com
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`Attorneys for RMI Insurers, defined as Columbia
`Casualty Company, Continental Casualty
`Company, in its own right, and as successor to
`CNA Casualty of California, The Continental
`Insurance Company, and as successor in interest to
`certain insurance policies issued by Harbor
`Insurance Company, Stonewall Insurance
`Company (now known as Berkshire Hathaway
`Specialty Insurance Company), National Union
`Fire Insurance Company of Pittsburgh PA, and
`Lexington Insurance Company to the extent they
`issued policies to Cyprus Mines Corporation prior
`to 1981; and AIU Insurance Company,
`Birmingham Fire Insurance Company of
`Pennsylvania, Granite State Insurance Company,
`The Continental Insurance Company, as successor
`to The Fidelity and Casualty Company of New York
`and as successor in interest to certain policies
`issued by London Guarantee & Accident of New
`York, and Republic Insurance Company to the
`extent they issued policies to Standard Oil of
`Indiana prior to 1986
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`Timothy Martin
`WHITE AND WILLIAMS LLP
`Courthouse Square
`600 N. King Street, Suite 800
`Wilmington, Delaware 19801
`Phone: (302) 654-0424
`E-mail: martint@whiteandwilliams.com
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`Mark D. Plevin (admitted pro hac vice)
`PLEVIN & TURNER LLP
`580 California Street, Suite 1200
`San Francisco, California 94104
`Phone: (415) 580-6640
`E-mail: mplevin@plevinturner.com
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`Tacie H. Yoon (admitted pro hac vice)
`PLEVIN & TURNER LLP
`1701 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W., Suite 200
`Washington, D.C. 20006
`Phone: (202) 580-6640
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`Email: tyoon@plevinturner.com
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`Attorneys for Century Indemnity Company, in its
`own right and as successor to CCI Insurance
`Company, as successor to Insurance Company of
`North America; Oakwood Insurance Company, as
`successor by merger to Central National Insurance
`Company of Omaha, but only as respects policies
`issued through Cravens, Dargan & Company,
`Pacific Coast; and Federal Insurance Company
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`Marc Casarino
`KENNEDYS LLP
`1105 North Market Street
`Suite 1500
`Wilmington, Delaware 19801
`Phone: 302-504-7823
`Fax: 215-731-3777
`mcasarino@kennedys.com
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`George R. Calhoun (admitted pro hac vice)
`IFRAH PLLC
`1717 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
`Washington, D.C. 20006
`Phone: (202) 525-4147
`george@ifrahlaw.com
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`Attorneys for TIG Insurance Company, as
`successor by merger to International Insurance
`Company, International Surplus Lines Insurance
`Company, Mt. McKinley Insurance Company
`(formerly known as Gibraltar Insurance
`Company), Fairmont Premier Insurance Company
`(formerly known as Transamerica Premier
`Insurance Company), Everest Reinsurance
`Company (formerly known as Prudential
`Reinsurance Company), and The North River
`Insurance Company
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`Richard M. Beck (DE Bar No. 3370)
`Sally E. Veghte (DE Bar No. 4762)
`KLEHR HARRISON HARVEY
`BRANZBURG LLP
`919 Market Street, Suite 1000
`Wilmington, Delaware 19801-3062
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`(302) 426-1189
`Telephone:
`Email: rbeck@klehr.com, sveghte@klehr.com
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`Joshua D. Weinberg (pro hac vice)
`Joshua P. Mayer (pro hac vice)
`James Burke (pro hac forthcoming)
`RUGGERI PARKS WEINBERG LLP
`1875 K Street NW, Suite 800
`Washington, DC 20006-1251
`Telephone: (202) 984-1400
`Email: jweinberg@ruggerilaw.com,
`jmayer@ruggerilaw.com,
`jburke@ruggerilaw.com
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`Attorneys for Hartford Accident and Indemnity
`Company and First State Insurance Company
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`Seth A. Niederman (DE 4588)
`Neal J. Levitsky (DE 2092)
`FOX ROTHSCHILD LLP
`1201 N. Market Street, Suite 1200
`Wilmington, Delaware 19801
`Telephone: (302) 654-7444
`Facsimile: (302) 656-8920
`Email: sniederman@foxrothschild.com,
`nlevitsky@foxrothschild.com
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`Lynn K. Neuner (pro hac vice)
`Sarah Phillips (pro hac vice)
`Matthew C. Penny (pro hac vice)
`SIMPSON THACHER & BARTLETT LLP
`425 Lexington Avenue
`New York, NY 10017
`Telephone: (212) 455-2000
`Facsimile: (212) 455-2502
`Email: lneuner@stblaw.com,
`sarah.phillips@stblaw.com,
`matthew.penny@stblaw.com
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`Counsel to Travelers Casualty and Surety
`Company (f/k/a The Aetna Casualty and
`Surety Company) and The Travelers Indemnity
`Company
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` UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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` DISTRICT OF DELAWARE
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` In re: IMERYS TALC AMERICA,
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` ET AL., Chapter 11
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` Debtors. Case No. 19-10289
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` Jointly Administered
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` VIDEO-RECORDED FEDERAL RULE 30(B)(6) DEPOSITION OF
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` BY MAURA KOLB
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` New York, New York
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` Thursday, January 30, 2025
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`REPORTED BY:
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`LESLIE ROCKWOOD ROSAS, RPR, CSR 3462
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` UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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` DISTRICT OF DELAWARE
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` In re: IMERYS TALC AMERICA,
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` ET AL., Chapter 11
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` Debtors. Case No. 19-10289
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` Video-recorded Federal Rule 30(b)(6) deposition
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`of THE OFFICIAL COMMITTEE OF TORT CLAIMANTS BY
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`MAURA KOLB, taken on behalf of CERTAIN INSURERS, Remote
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` B Y : S T A M A T I O S S T A M O U L I S , E S Q .
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` 8 0 0 N o r t h W e s t S t r e e t , T h i r d F l o o r
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` ( 3 0 2 ) 9 9 9 - 1 5 4 0 ( M r . S t a m o u l i s )
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` s t a m o u l i s @ s w d e l a w . c o m
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` R O B I N S O N & C O L E L L P
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` B Y : P E T E R R . K N I G H T , E S Q .
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` O n e S t a t e S t r e e t
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` H a r t f o r d , C o n n e c t i c u t 0 6 1 0 3
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` p k n i g h t @ r c . c o m
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` B Y : M A R K A . F I N K , E S Q .
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` C h r y s l e r E a s t B u i l d i n g , 2 0 t h F l o o r
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`A P P E A R A N C E S ( C o n t i n u e d ) :
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` T O G U T , S E G A L & S E G A L L L P
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` B Y : J A R E D C . B O R R I E L L O , E S Q .
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` S C O T T E . R A T N E R , E S Q .
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` O n e P e n n P l a z a , S u i t e 3 3 3 5
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` N e w Y o r k , N e w Y o r k 1 0 1 1 9
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` ( 2 1 2 ) 2 0 1 - 6 5 7 1 ( M r . B o r r i e l l o )
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` ( 2 1 2 ) 5 9 4 - 5 0 0 0 ( M r . R a t n e r )
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` j b o r r i e l l o @ t e a m t o g u t . c o m
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` s r a t n e r @ t e a m t o g u t . c o m
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` A N D E R S O N K I L L
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` B Y : M A R K G A R B O W S K I , E S Q .
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` 7 T i m e s S q u a r e , 1 5 t h F l o o r
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` N e w Y o r k , N e w Y o r k 1 0 0 3 6
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` m g a r b o w s k i @ a n d e r s o n k i l l . c o m
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` N E A L , G E R B E R & E I S E N B E R G L L P
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` B Y : C H R I S T O P H E R B A T D O R F - B A R N E S , E S Q .
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` T w o N o r t h L a S a l l e S t r e e t , S u i t e 1 7 0 0
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` C h i c a g o , I l l i n o i s 6 0 6 0 2
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` c b a t d o r f - b a r n e s @ n g e . c o m
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`A P P E A R A N C E S ( C o n t i n u e d ) :
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` Y O U N G C O N A W A Y S T A R G A T T & T A Y L O R L L P
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` B Y : R O B E R T S . B R A D Y , E S Q .
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` R o d n e y S q u a r e
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` 1 0 0 0 N o r t h K i n g S t r e e t
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` r b r a d y @ y c s t . c o m
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` C A P L I N & D R Y S D A L E , C H T D .
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` B Y : K E V I N M . D A V I S , E S Q .
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` A L L I S O N M . S C O G G I N , E S Q .
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` 1 2 0 0 N e w H a m p s h i r e A v e n u e N W , 8 t h F l o o r
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` W a s h i n g t o n , D C 2 0 0 3 6
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` ( 2 0 2 ) 8 6 2 - 7 8 4 6 ( M r . D a v i s )
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` ( 2 0 2 ) 8 6 2 - 5 0 9 7 ( M s . S c o g g i n )
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` k d a v i s @ c a p d a l e . c o m
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` a s c o g g i n @ c a p d a l e . c o m
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`A P P E A R A N C E S ( C o n t i n u e d ) :
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` B Y : Y I F A N L I U , E S Q .
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` L i u Y @ g i l b e r t l e g a l . c o m
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` L A T H A M & W A T K I N S L L P
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` B Y : K I M B E R L Y A . P O S I N , E S Q .
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` S H A W N H A N S E N , E S Q .
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` 3 5 5 S o u t h G r a n d A v e n u e , S u i t e 1 0 0
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` ( 2 1 3 ) 8 9 1 - 8 5 2 0 ( M r . H a n s e n )
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` k i m . p o s i n @ l w . c o m
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` S h a w n . H a n s e n @ l w . c o m
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` B Y : J A S O N P E T R O P O U L O S , E S Q .
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` 1 2 7 1 A v e n u e o f t h e A m e r i c a s
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` J a s o n . P e t r o p o u l o s @ l w . c o m
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`A P P E A R A N C E S ( C o n t i n u e d ) :
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` O ' M E L V E N Y & M Y E R S L L P
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` B Y : A D A M H A B E R K O R N , E S Q .
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` 1 3 0 1 A v e n u e o f t h e A m e r i c a s , S u i t e 1 7 0 0
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` N e w Y o r k , N e w Y o r k 1 0 0 1 9
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` a h a b e r k o r n @ o m m . c o m
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` O F F I C E O F T H E U . S . T R U S T E E
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` U . S . D E P A R T M E N T O F J U S T I C E
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` B Y : L I N D A R I C H E N D E R F E R , E S Q .
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` W i l m i n g t o n , D e l a w a r e 1 9 8 0 1
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` L i n d a . R i c h e n d e r f e r @ u s d o j . g o v
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` T U C K E R A R E N S B E R G P . C .
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` B Y : M A R I B E T H T H O M A S , E S Q .
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` O n e P P G P l a c e , S u i t e 1 5 0 0
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` P i t t s b u r g h , P e n n s y l v a n i a 1 5 2 2 2
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` m t h o m a s @ t u c k e r l a w . c o m
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`A P P E A R A N C E S ( C o n t i n u e d ) :
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` B Y : A D A M G U T T E N T A G , E S Q .
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` O n e B a t t e r y P a r k P l a z a
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` N e w Y o r k , N e w Y o r k 1 0 0 0 4 - 1 4 8 2
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` a d a m . g u t t e n t a g @ h u g h e s h u b b a r d . c o m
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` G I L B E R T L L P
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` B Y : B E T H K O E H L E R , E S Q .
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` 7 0 0 P e n n s y l v a n i a A v e n u e , S u i t e 4 0 0
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` k o e h l e r b @ g i l b e r t l e g a l . c o m
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` S I M P S O N T H A T C H E R & B A R T L E T T L L P
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` B Y : M E L I S S A V A L L E J O , E S Q .
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` 4 2 5 L e x i n g t o n A v e n u e
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` N e w Y o r k , N e w Y o r k 1 0 0 1 7
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`APPEARANCES (Continued):
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` John Mayer
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` Luke Sizemore
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` Mark Hurford
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` Natalie Ramsey
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` Roger Frankel
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` Sean Andrews
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` John Macdonell, Videographer
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` Jeff Gibbs, Technical Concierge
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` I N D E X
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` WITNESS EXAMINATION
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` (B)(6) DEPOSITION OF THE OFFICIAL COMMITTEE OF TORT
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` CLAIMANTS BY MAURA KOLB
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` BY MR. STAMOULIS 14
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` QUESTIONS WITNESS INSTRUCTED NOT TO ANSWER:
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` DEPOSITION EXHIBITS
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` (B)(6) DEPOSITION OF THE OFFICIAL COMMITTEE OF TORT
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` CLAIMANTS BY MAURA KOLB
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` NUMBER DESCRIPTION IDENTIFIED
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` Exhibit 1 Certain Insurers Notice of Rule 21
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` 30(b)(6) Deposition of Designated
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` Representative(s) of the Official
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` Committee of Tort Claimants
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` Exhibit 2 Ivory America/Cyprus Personal 27
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` Injury Trust Distribution
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` Procedures
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` Exhibit 3 Combined Solicitation Procedures 50
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` Exhibit 4 Ballot For Accepting or Rejecting 52
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` the Second Joint Plan of
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` Reorganization, etc.
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` Exhibit 5 Master Ballot For Accepting or 52
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` Rejecting the Second Joint Plan of
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` Reorganization, etc.
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` Exhibit 6 Settlement Agreement and Release 63
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