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Case 1:17-cv-00770-JDW Document 245-34 Filed 10/19/23 Page 1 of 5 PageID #: 24883
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`Case 1:17-cv-00770-JDW Document 245-34 Filed 10/19/23 Page 2 of 5 PageID #: 24884
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`8/17/2023
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`Wirtgen America Inc. v. Caterpillar Inc.
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`John Meyer, Ph.D.
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`Page 1
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` IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
` FOR THE DISTRICT OF DELAWARE
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`WIRTGEN AMERICA, INC., )
` Plaintiff/Counter- )Case No.
` Defendant, )1:17-cv-00770-JDW
` vs. )
`CATERPILLAR, INC., )
` Defendant/Counter- )
` Plaintiff. )
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` DEPOSITION OF JOHN MEYER, Ph.D.
` WASHINGTON, D.C.
` AUGUST 17, 2023
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`REPORTED BY: Tina Alfaro, RPR, CRR, RMR
`______________________________________________________
` DIGITAL EVIDENCE GROUP
` 1730 M Street, NW, Suite 812
` Washington, D.C. 20036
` (202) 232-0646
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`www.DigitalEvidenceGroup.com Digital Evidence Group C'rt 2023
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`202-232-0646
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`Case 1:17-cv-00770-JDW Document 245-34 Filed 10/19/23 Page 3 of 5 PageID #: 24885
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`8/17/2023
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`Wirtgen America Inc. v. Caterpillar Inc.
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`John Meyer, Ph.D.
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`Page 106
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` MR. PHERO: Objection to form,
`mischaracterization.
` A. I think that refers to the novelty of the
`invention, not -- not the components or parts of
`the invention which are also present in prior art.
` Q. Would you agree with me, then, that what
`must be commercially successful must be the novel
`parts of the invention?
` MR. PHERO: Objection to form, calls for a
`legal conclusion.
` A. As a patent attorney -- or as not a patent
`attorney I don't know that I am able to give you a
`concrete answer as far as that goes.
` Q. Okay. Here you say at the beginning of
`paragraph 199 that "The asserted claims of the
`'641 Patent is co-extensive with the covered road
`milling machines"; do you see that?
` A. Yes.
` Q. Whose covered road milling machines are
`you talking about?
` A. Wirtgen's road milling machines.
` Q. Okay. In your opening report do you
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`Wirtgen America Inc. v. Caterpillar Inc.
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`John Meyer, Ph.D.
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`Page 107
`anywhere provide an analysis showing that use of
`Wirtgen's road milling machines practice each and
`every step of claims 11, 17, and 18?
` MR. PHERO: Objection to form.
` A. My understanding is that the material from
`the prior ITC investigation has been made available
`to this particular case, and in that investigation
`I did that analysis.
` Q. Okay. And did you cite that in your
`opening report?
` A. I don't recall if that's cited.
` Q. Okay.
` Okay. Let's look at paragraph 191 of your
`opening report, and I've just got a series of a few
`quick questions about this section. Paragraph 191
`you don't -- you don't cite any evidence to support
`the opinions in this paragraph, correct?
` MR. PHERO: Objection to form.
` A. What was your question?
` Q. In paragraph 191 of your opening report
`you don't cite any evidence supporting the opinions
`contained here, correct?
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`Case 1:17-cv-00770-JDW Document 245-34 Filed 10/19/23 Page 5 of 5 PageID #: 24887
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`8/17/2023
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`Wirtgen America Inc. v. Caterpillar Inc.
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`John Meyer, Ph.D.
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`Page 228
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` C E R T I F I C A T E
` I, TINA M. ALFARO, Registered Professional
`Reporter, Certified Realtime Reporter, and
`Registered Merit Reporter, the officer before whom
`the foregoing deposition was taken, do hereby
`certify that the foregoing transcript is a true and
`correct record of the testimony given; that said
`testimony was taken by me stenographically and
`thereafter reduced to typewriting under my
`direction; that reading and signing was requested;
`and that I am neither counsel for, related to, nor
`employed by any of the parties to this case and
`have no interest, financial or otherwise, in its
`outcome.
` IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my
`hand on this 24th day of August, 2023.
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`________________________________
`Tina M. Alfaro, RPR, CRR, RMR
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