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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`QUALTRICS, LLC
`Petitioner
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`OPINIONLAB, INC.
`Patent Owner
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`Case IPR2014-003661
`U.S. Patent 8,041,805
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`PETITIONER’S OBJECTIONS TO
`PATENT OWNER’S DEMONSTRATIVES
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`1 Related cases: IPR2014-00356 (Patent 6,606,581), IPR2014-00406 (Patent
`7,085,820), IPR2014-00420 (Patent 7,370,285), IPR2014-00421 (Patent 8,024,668)
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`Case IPR2014-00366
`U.S. Patent 8,041,805
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`Under the Board’s March 10, 2015 Trial Hearing Order (Paper 43),
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`Petitioner Qualtrics, LLC objects
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`to Patent Owner OpinionLab
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`demonstrative slides for IPR2014-00366 (8,041,805 Patent), IPR 2014-00356
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`(6,606,581 Patent), and IPR2014-00406 (7,085,820 Patent).
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`Petitioner objects
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`the demonstratives on
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`the ground
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`impermissibly raise new arguments not previously “raised in a paper.” 37 C.F.R.
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`§ 42.70(a); Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, 77 Fed. Reg. 48756, 48768 (Aug.
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`14, 2012). Demonstratives are “not intended to introduce new evidence or to be
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`presented as additional briefing in the proceeding.” Guangdong Xinbao Electrical
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`Appliances Holdings Co. v. Adrian Rivera, IPR2014-00042, Paper 44 at 2 (Oct. 27,
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`2014). Further, the “burden on showing that a demonstrative slide does not present
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`new argument or new evidence is on the party presenting the slide,” and “it cannot
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`be made overly cumbersome for the Board and the opposing party to determine
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`whether something is new.” CBS Interactive Inc. v. Helferich Patent Licensing,
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`LLC., IPR2013-00033, Paper 118 at 4 (Oct. 23, 2013).
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` None of Patent Owner’s demonstratives contain citations to the record
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`establishing that the demonstrative does not present new arguments or evidence.
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`Thus, it is “overly cumbersome” to determine whether any demonstrative presents
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`new argument or evidence. Petitioner specifically objects to certain demonstrative
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`slides as set forth below.
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`Case IPR2014-00366
`U.S. Patent 8,041,805
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`Petitioner’s Objections to Patent Owner’s Demonstratives for
`IPR2014-00366 (’805 Patent), IPR 2014-00356 (’581 Patent), and
`IPR2014-00406 (’820 Patent)
`Petitioner objects to the statement “Petitioner concedes that its ‘cited
`disclosure says nothing about how the resulting survey is displayed’” on
`the ground that the quoted statement refers to Patent Owner’s cited
`disclosure, not to Petitioner’s.
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`Petitioner objects to the statements regarding CustomerSat’s disclosure of
`a “Pop!Up questionnaire” and “‘Pop!Up’ is a marketing term” on the
`ground that these are new arguments that were not previously raised by
`Patent Owner.
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`Petitioner objects to the statement “Multiple boxes, buttons, checkboxes,
`etc. on one page makes perfect sense in Chapter 20 … Putting Chapter
`21’s call button and resulting comment form on one page makes no sense”
`on the ground that this is a new argument that was not previously raised
`by Patent Owner.
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`Petitioner objects to the statements “The ‘scrolling’ limitation was not
`considered distinguishing in the Final Office Action” and “Wu’s
`disclosure is unclear in any event” on the grounds that they (1) are wrong;
`and (2) are new and were not previously raised by the Patent Owner.
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`Petitioner objects to the statement “Cannot provide proper motivation to
`combine with every other software program for every purpose” on the
`ground that it is a new argument and was not previously raised by Patent
`Owner.
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`Finally, Petitioner objects to Patent Owner’s demonstratives to the extent
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`they contain or rely upon the testimony of Patent owner’s expert, Dr. Shamos, that
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`is the subject of Petitioner’s pending motion to exclude.
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`Case IPR2014-00366
`U.S. Patent 8,041,805
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`Dated: April 20, 2015
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`By:
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`/s/ Robert Steinberg___
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`Robert Steinberg
`Reg. No. 33144
`Neil A. Rubin
`Reg. No. 67030
`Latham & Watkins LLP
`355 South Grand Avenue
`Los Angeles, CA 90071-1560
`213.485.1234
`213.891.8763 (Fax)
`Counsel for Petitioner
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.6(e) and the parties’ agreement to electronic service
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`on August 21, 2014, I certify that on April 20, 2015, a copy of:
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`PETITIONER’S OBJECTIONS TO
`PATENT OWNER’S DEMONSTRATIVES
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`was served by e-mail on Patent Owner’s lead and backup counsel, as follows:
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`Christopher W. Kennerly
`chriskennerly@paulhastings.com
`Paul Hastings LLP
`1117 S. California Ave.
`Palo Alto, CA 94304
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`Naveen Modi
`naveenmodi@paulhastings.com
`Timothy P. Cremen
`timothycremen@paulhastings.com
`Paul Hastings LLP
`875 15th Street, N.W.
`Washington, DC 20005
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` By: /s/ Robert Steinberg
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` Robert Steinberg
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` Neil A. Rubin
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` Reg. No. 67030
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` Jonathan M. Jackson (admitted pro hac vice)
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` Philip X. Wang (admitted pro hac vice)
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` Latham & Watkins LLP
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` 355 South Grand Avenue
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` 213.485.1234
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` Counsel for Petitioner