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UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`
`______________
`
`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`______________
`
`COLEMAN CABLE, LLC, JIAWEI TECHNOLOGY (HK) LTD., JIAWEI
`TECHNOLOGY (USA) LTD., SHENZHEN JIAWEI PHOTOVOLTAIC
`LIGHTING CO, LTD., ATICO INTERNATIONAL (ASIA) LTD., ATICO
`INTERNATIONAL USA, INC., SMART SOLAR, INC, AND TEST RITE
`PRODUCTS CORP.
`Petitioner,
`
`v.
`
`SIMON NICHOLAS RICHMOND
`Patent Owner.
`______________
`
`U.S. Patent No. 8,089,370 to Richmond
`Case No. IPR2014-00935
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`PETITIONER’S REPLY TO PATENT OWNER’S
`RESPONSE TO PETITIONER’S MOTION TO EXCLUDE CERTAIN
`EVIDENCE OF RECORD
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`

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`I.
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`Introduction.
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`Petitioner respectfully submits this Reply to Patent Owner’s Response to
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`Petitioner’s Motion to Exclude (“Response to Pet. Mot. to Exclude”). For the
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`reasons discussed below and those provided in petitioner’s Motion to Exclude
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`(“Motion”), the PTAB should exclude Exhibits 2054, 2062, 2064, 2066, and 2076.
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`The PTAB should also exclude Dr. Shackle’s deposition testimony regarding the
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`Unified Glare Rating Formula and “retrospective” review.
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`II.
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`Because Patent Owner “[R]eserves its [R]ight to [A]ppeal” the
`Denial of Its Motion to Terminate, Petitioner’s Motion to Exclude
`Exhibits 2054, 2062, 2064, 2066, and 2076 Is Not Moot.
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`Patent Owner argues that Petitioner’s Motion to Exclude exhibits 2054, 2062,
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`2064, 2066, and 2076 is moot because the Board denied Patent Owner’s motion.
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`Patent Owner, however, purports to “reserve[] its right to appeal the decision of the
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`Board.” Response to Pet. Mot. to Exclude, Paper No. 54 at 1. This reservation
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`indicates that Patent Owner may attempt to appeal this rejection. Petitioner’s
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`Motion, therefore, is not moot. Because Patent Owner fails to argue that the
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`exhibits are not hearsay, or make any other argument justifying their admissibility,
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`Petitioner respectfully requests these exhibits be excluded.
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`1
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`

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`III. The Testimony Regarding “Retrospective Review” Should Be
`Excluded.
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`Patent owner improperly argues that the testimony should be permitted
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`because petitioner did not object and that Patent Owner’s hindsight inference is
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`justified based on the testimony. Patent owner is wrong.
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`First, petitioner’s counsel objected to the question regarding “retrospective
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`analysis” in Ex. 2024 at page 278, line 15. Patent owner’s counsel then re-asked a
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`similar question to which Petitioner’s counsel objected. Petitioner’s counsel then
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`stated “[g]o ahead. I’m sorry” as he had interrupted and Patent Owner’s counsel
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`then asked a similar question with “retrospective review.” Id. 278:22-25. The
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`“objection to form” from the previously asked question was believed to be still in
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`effect as the same vague “retrospective” term was being used.
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`Second, patent owner attempts to convert Dr. Shackle’s answer into
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`improper hindsight that should be excluded because it is not supported by Dr.
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`Shackle’s testimony. As stated in Petitioner’s Motion, Dr. Shackle thought his
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`response to the “retrospective review” question meant that he obtained the prior
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`art, studied it, and provided an opinion. Patent Owner characterization of this
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`analysis as improper hindsight is not supported by the evidence. Because the
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`probative value of this testimony is extremely low, and the potential for unfair
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`prejudice and confusion is very high (as demonstrated by Patent Owner’s
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`argument), this testimony should be excluded under FRE 402 and 403. Petitioner
`2
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`

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`thus moves to exclude testimony in Ex. 2024, Shackle Depo. at 277:19-279:10,
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`Patent Owner Response, Paper 29 at 7 and Ex. 2021, Ducharme Decl. at ¶ 35.
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`IV. Testimony regarding the Unified Glare Rating Formula should Be
`Excluded as Irrelevant.
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`Since filing Petitioner’s motion to exclude, Patent Owner relied upon the
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`Unified Glare Rating Formula for
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`its Observations #7 and #8. Mot.
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`for
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`Observations, paper 51, pp. 7-9 (citing Ex. 2084 at 99:17-19, 101:14-25, 107:24-
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`108:3, 108:25-109:12, 110:6-14, 112:7-12, 131:21-132:2, and 147:13-16). Patent
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`Owner complains that Petitioner’s objections were not timely, not explained or
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`preserved, and the testimony was relevant. Patent Owner is incorrect.
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`A.
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`Petitioner objected timely and in the form required by
`the Board’s Practice Guide
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`Patent Owner’s complaint about the lack of explanation of the objections is
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`untimely. As explained Petitioner’s Motion to Exclude, Petitioner’s counsel
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`objected many times to this line of questioning. Paper 49, p. 5 (“objections at
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`102:1–4,103:11–17, 106:21–107:16, 110:6–14, 110:24–112:1, 112:7–114:20,
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`116:16–117:14,122:22–123:10, 123:19–24, 129:12–23, and 136:25–137:12”). Per
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`the Board’s Practice Guide, Petitioner limited its objection to single words. 77 Fed.
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`Reg. 48772. Patent Owner cannot now complain about the form of the objection
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`since it never requested clarification of the objection, and the Board does not
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`permit attorneys to clarify objections absent a request from opposing counsel. Id.
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`3
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`

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`Therefore, Petitioner objected timely and explained the objections per the Board’s
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`guidance.
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`B.
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`The Unified Glare Rating Formula is irrelevant because
`Dr. Shackle testified it was
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`Patent Owner opposes Petitioner’s objection on the basis that the objection
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`goes to weight rather than relevance. As explained in the motion, that is irrelevant
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`because the Unified Glare Rating Formula is used to assess glare caused by light
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`that is orders of magnitude more intense than those generated by LED garden
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`lights having relatively small batteries. Mot. to Ex., p. 5; see also, Resp. to
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`Observ., paper 56, pp. 6–9. The testimony is irrelevant because the light is
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`“100,000 times brighter than the context we are considering.” Id. Therefore, the
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`Board should exclude the testimony as irrelevant under FRE 402 and 403.
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`V.
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`CONCLUSION
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`The Board should GRANT Petitioner’s Motion to Exclude.
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`4
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`

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`Respectfully submitted,
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`Dated:
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`September 2, 2015
`
`233 South Wacker Drive
`Suite 7800
`Chicago, IL 60606-6306
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`DENTONS US LLP
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`/Mark C. Nelson/
`
`Mark C. Nelson
`Reg. No. 43,830
`Lissi Mojica
`Reg. No. 63,421
`Kevin Greenleaf
`Reg. No. 64,062
`Daniel Valenzuela
`Reg. No. 69,027
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`

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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`The undersigned certifies that a copy of the PETITIONER’S REPLY TO
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`PATENT OWNER’S RESPONSE TO PETITIONER’S MOTION TO EXCLUDE
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`CERTAIN EVIDENCE OF RECORD for Inter Partes Review of U.S. Patent No.
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`8,089,370 was served on the Counsel for the patent owner via email to these email
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`addresses:
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`tfshiells@shiellslaw.com
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`admin@shiellslaw.com
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`marcusb@tlpmb.com
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`Dated: __September 2, 2015_____
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`___/Nona Durham/_________
`
`Nona Durham
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