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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`J SQUARED, INC. d/b/a UNIVERSITY LOFT COMPANY
`Petitioner
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`SAUDER MANUFACTURING COMPANY
`Patent Owner
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`Case IPR2015-00774
`Patent No. 8,585,136
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`CHAIR WITH COUPLING
`COMPANION STOOL BASE
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`Before LINDA E. HORNER, JOSIAH C. COCKS, and JAMES A. WORTH,
`Administrative Patent Judges.
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`PATENT OWNER’S REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
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`Patent Owner, Sauder Manufacturing Company, respectfully requests the
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`opportunity for oral argument on April 21, 2016, in accordance with the Board’s
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`Scheduling Order dated August 24, 2015.
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`Patent Owner suggests that oral argument with respect to both of the
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`pending IPR2015-00774 and IPR2015-00958 be made at the same hearing, and the
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`following issues be addressed with respect to IPR2015-00774:
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`1.
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`Based on a preponderance of evidence, including the overall teaching
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`of the patent document and the unrebutted testimony of three PHOSITAS:
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`Is it most reasonable to construe the term “combination” as a
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`closed-ended term limiting the invention to just two units; a floor rocker and a
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`base, both of which play a necessary role in the recited configurations?
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`b.
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`Is it most reasonable to construe the term “chair” as referring to
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`a “desk chair”?
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`c.
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`Is it most reasonable to construe the term “stool base” to a base
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`having a relatively flat smooth unrimmed top suitable for use as a writing surface,
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`a support surface for a laptop or the like, and a sitting surface?
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`d.
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`It is most reasonable to construe the term “user” as informing
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`the balance of the claim and the structural limitations therein as making the chair
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`unsuitable for use by an infant?
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`e.
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`Is it most reasonable to construe the term “saddle” consistent
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`with the use of the same term in the patent specification to define certain
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`characteristics of the top of the base?
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`f.
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`Is it most reasonable to construe the term “accessible” as a
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`height limitation for the base necessary to achieve the recited “companion”
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`relationship between the floor rocker and the base when used as a writing surface
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`for a person seated in the floor rocker?
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`Is it most reasonable to construe the term “pedestal” as
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`consistent with the same term used in the patent specification and drawing to
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`expressly define a single columnar type base?
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`h.
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`Is it most reasonable to construe the phrase “assembly
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`positioned below said sitting portion” as defining a specific location for the
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`structure that enables the coupling function and specifies the location and function
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`of the rocker rails?
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`i.
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`Is it most reasonable to construe the term “alternatively” in
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`claim 1 as allowing two different but not mutually exclusive uses of the base?
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`j. What are the most reasonable interpretations of the claim terms
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`“lower portion” particularly in view of the Board’s previous construction of the
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`term “coupling”?
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`Is Patent Owner’s construction of the language of claim 4 in defining
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`the structural character and location of the attachment points between the rocker
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`rails and the seat bottom the broadest reasonable interpretation of the claim and
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`does that construction reflect on the locational language “assembly positioned
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`below” in claim 1?
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`3.
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`Does the “corresponding structure” of the “means plus function”
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`limitation in claim 12 necessarily include at least the clip clamp and the claw in
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`view of the fact that the function recited deals only with the engagement of the
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`chair with the base and not with the disengagement, the unrebutted evidence
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`proving that the function is not and cannot be achieved by the clip clamp alone,
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`and the nearly identical language in the specification relating both claw and clamp
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`to the “releasably engage” function?
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`4.
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`The broader question as to whether Patent Owner’s narrower but fully
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`supported constructions of claims better serve the public interest as compared to
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`the ultra-broad constructions proffered by Petitioner that take claim scope beyond
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`the actual teachings of the patent.
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`5. Whether it is necessary or even informative in this case for a
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`PHOSITA to consult the file history to correctly construe the claims?
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`6.
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`If Petitioner and/or the Board correctly evaluated the scope and
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`content of the prior art, particularly:
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`a. Whether the Mackey patent has “identity” with the inventions
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`of claims 1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 10 and 11 and discloses all of those claims;
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`b. Whether Pollack I and II make the invention as defined by
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`claims 1, 2 and 6-14 obvious;
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`c. Whether the Pollack patents disclose a “stool base” and/or a
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`“pedestal” base or a “saddle;”
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`d. Whether the Pollack patents disclose a structure capable of
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`“coupling” as the Board has construed the term;
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`e. Whether the Pollack patents disclose a structure capable of
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`“releasably engaging” as the Board has construed the term; and
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`f. Whether the Pollack patents disclose a base capable of
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`providing a tilting or swivel function for a chair releasably engaged and/or
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`coupled to it.
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`g. Whether Pollack’s latching mechanisms have been proven to be
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`an equivalent of the corresponding structure of the ‘136 patent, claim 12.
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`7. Whether the declarants for Patent Owner are in substantial agreement
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`as to claim scope, and whether any disparity between them is material and/or
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`prejudicial to Patent Owner’s evidentiary presentation;
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`8. Whether Petitioner’s arguments for anticipation and obviousness are
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`based entirely on concepts and conclusions of counsel as opposed to evidence
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`dealing with the technical content of the prior art, the level of skill in the art and
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`the avoidance of hindsight.
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`9. Whether industry praise must come from a PHOSITA to be relevant
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`particularly where the technology of the invention is readily understood by lay
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`persons;
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`10. Whether Patent Owner’s unrefuted evidence including Petitioner’s
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`own commercial statements establishes a nexus between the claimed invention and
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`the objective factors of praise; commercial success, and copying;
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`11. Whether any or all of the objective factors must necessarily derive
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`from an individual novel element as opposed to the claimed combination as a
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`whole;
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`12. Whether Petitioner has established its positions by a preponderance of
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`the evidence given the omission by Petitioner to submit any testimonial evidence
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`from a PHOSITA or other eligible witness;
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`13. Has Patent Owner provided sufficient evidence to show commercial
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`success in a relevant market?
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`14. Whether Patent Owner has waived argument as to the construction
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`and/or validity of any claim?
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`15. Such other and additional questions as Petitioner may raise in its
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`argument as well as any additional issues on which the Board seeks clarification.
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`For the oral argument, Patent Owner does not require the use of audiovisual
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`equipment to display demonstrative exhibits, but will likely bring to the argument
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`the commercial products of Patent Owner and Petitioner for the Board’s
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`inspection. Patent Owner requests that the oral arguments for both IPR2015-00774
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`and IPR2015-00998 be held concurrently and requests two hours for Patent
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`Owner’s oral argument.
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`YOUNG BASILE HANLON & MACFARLANE PC
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`/s/Thomas N. Young
`THOMAS N. YOUNG (P22656)
`Attorney for Patent Owner
`Young Basile Hanlon & MacFarlane P.C.
`3001 W. Big Beaver Rd. Suite 624
`Troy, MI 48084
`(248) 649-3333
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`Dated: March 28, 2016
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`William F. Bahret,
`Reg. No. 31,087
`Bahret & Associates LLC
`320 N. Meridian St., Suite 510
`Indianapolis, Indiana 46204
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. §§ 42.6(e)(4) and 42.205(b), the undersigned certifies
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`that on March 28, 2016, a complete and entire copy of Patent Owner’s Request for
`Oral Argument was provided via Federal Express, to the Petitioner by serving the
`correspondence address of record as follows:
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`Stephen F. Rost
`Reg. No. 61,983
`Taft Stettinius & Hollister LLP
`One Indiana Square, Suite 3500
`Indianapolis, IN 46204
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`Scott A. McKeown
`Oblon LLP
`1940 Duke Street
`Alexandria, Virginia 22314
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`Timothy Eagle
`Reg. No. 31755
`Varnum Riddering Schmidt
`& Howlett, LLP
`333 Bridge Street NW
`P.O. Box 352
`Grand Rapids, MI 49501-0352
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`/s/Thomas N. Young
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