`571-272-7822
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`Paper No. 38
`April 11, 2016
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`KAPSCH TRAFFICCOM IVHS INC. and
`KAPSCH TRAFFICCOM HOLDING CORP.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`NEOLOGY, INC.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2015-00814 (Patent 6,690,264 B2)
`Case IPR2015-00818 (Patent 8,237,568 B2)
`Case IPR2015-00819 (Patent 8,325,044 B2)1
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`Before JUSTIN T. ARBES, GLENN J. PERRY, and
`TREVOR M. JEFFERSON, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`PERRY, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Conduct of the Proceeding – Oral Argument
`37 C.F.R. § 42.5, 42.70
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`The parties requested oral argument in each of these proceedings
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`pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70. Papers 35, 36. The requests are granted.
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`1 The Board exercises its discretion to issue this single Order applicable to
`three related cases that will be argued in the same session. The parties are
`required to file separately documents in the respective cases. For
`convenience, we refer to paper numbers filed in IPR2015-00814 only.
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`Case IPR2015-00814 (Patent 6,690,264 B2)
`Case IPR2015-00818 (Patent 8,237,568 B2)
`Case IPR2015-00819 (Patent 8,325,044 B2)
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`Date and Time
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`Oral argument for these proceedings will be conducted on
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`May 10, 2016. Each party will have 60 minutes of argument time for
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`IPR2015-00814, and 60 minutes of total argument time for IPR2015-00818
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`and IPR2015-00819, which will be argued together. Petitioner bears the
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`ultimate burden of proof that the claims at issue are unpatentable.
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`Therefore, Petitioner will proceed first to present its case with regard to the
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`challenged claims on which basis we instituted trial. Thereafter, Patent
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`Owner will respond to Petitioner’s case. After that, Petitioner may make
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`use of the rest of its time responding to Patent Owner. The hearing for
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`IPR2015-00814 will begin at 9:00 AM Eastern Time, and the hearing for
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`IPR2015-00818 and IPR2015-00819 will begin at 1:00 PM Eastern Time.
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`Open to Public
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`There is a strong public policy interest in making all information
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`presented in these proceedings public, as these reviews determine the
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`patentability of claims in issued patents and thus affect the rights of the
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`public. This policy is reflected in part, for example, in 35 U.S.C. § 316(a)(1)
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`and 35 U.S.C. § 326(a)(1), which provide that the file of any inter partes
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`review or post grant review be made available to the public, except that any
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`petition or document filed with the intent that it be sealed shall, if
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`accompanied by a motion to seal, be treated as sealed pending the outcome
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`of the ruling on the motion. Accordingly, we exercise our discretion to
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`make the oral hearing publicly available via in-person attendance.
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`Oral argument will commence at 9:00 AM Eastern Time, on
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`May 10, 2016, on the ninth floor of Madison Building East, 600 Dulany
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`Street, Alexandria, Virginia, and it will be open to the public for in-person
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`Case IPR2015-00814 (Patent 6,690,264 B2)
`Case IPR2015-00818 (Patent 8,237,568 B2)
`Case IPR2015-00819 (Patent 8,325,044 B2)
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`attendance. In person attendance will be accommodated on a first come first
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`serve basis.
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`Reporter
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`The Board will provide a court reporter for the hearing, and the
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`reporter’s transcript will constitute the official record of the hearing.
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`Demonstratives
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`Demonstratives are aids in support of oral argument and are not
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`evidence in the reviews. If demonstratives are to be used during oral
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`argument, they must be served five business days before the hearing in
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`accordance with 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b). Copies should also be sent by email
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`(not filed as record documents via PRPS) to the Board at least two business
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`days before the hearing. Prints of the demonstratives should be provided to
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`the panel and to the court reporter at oral argument. The parties are directed
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`to CBS Interactive Inc. v. Helferich Patent Licensing, LLC, IPR2013-00033,
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`Paper 118 (Oct. 23, 2013), regarding the appropriate content of
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`demonstratives. The parties are reminded that the presenter must identify
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`clearly and specifically each demonstrative exhibit (e.g., by slide or screen
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`number) referenced during the hearing to ensure the clarity and accuracy of
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`the reporter’s transcript.
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`Any issue regarding demonstrative exhibits should be resolved at least
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`two business days prior to the hearing by way of a joint telephone
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`conference call to the Board. The parties are responsible for requesting such
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`a conference sufficiently in advance of the hearing to accommodate this
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`requirement. Any objection to demonstrative exhibits that is not timely
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`presented will be considered waived.
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`Case IPR2015-00814 (Patent 6,690,264 B2)
`Case IPR2015-00818 (Patent 8,237,568 B2)
`Case IPR2015-00819 (Patent 8,325,044 B2)
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`Audio Visual Equipment
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`Questions regarding specific audio-visual equipment should be
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`directed to the Board at (571) 272-9797. Requests for audio-visual
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`equipment are to be made 5 days in advance of the hearing date. The
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`request is to be sent directly to Trials@uspto.gov. If the request is not
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`received timely, the equipment may not be available on the day of the
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`hearing.
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`Panel Presence
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`At present, all panel members are scheduled to attend argument in
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`person. In the event that a member of the panel attends the hearing
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`electronically from a remote location, and that if a demonstrative is not filed
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`or otherwise made fully available or visible to the judge attending remotely,
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`that demonstrative will not be considered. If the parties have questions as to
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`whether demonstrative exhibits would be sufficiently visible and available to
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`all of the judges, the parties are invited to contact the Board at 571-272-
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`9797.
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`Counsel Presence
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`The Board expects lead counsel for each party to be present in person
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`at the oral hearing. However, lead or backup counsel may present the
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`party’s argument. If either party anticipates that its lead counsel will not be
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`attending the oral hearing, the parties should initiate a joint telephone
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`conference with the Board no later than two business days prior to the oral
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`hearing to discuss the matter.
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`Case IPR2015-00814 (Patent 6,690,264 B2)
`Case IPR2015-00818 (Patent 8,237,568 B2)
`Case IPR2015-00819 (Patent 8,325,044 B2)
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`PETITIONER:
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`Gregg F. LoCascio, Gregg.locasio@kirkland.com
`Nathan Mammen, Nathan.mammen@kirkland.com
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`KIRKLAND & ELLIS LLP
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`Noel C. Gillespie, noel.gillespie@procopio.com
`Victor M. Felix, victor.felix@procopio.com
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`PROCOPIO, CORY, HARGREAVES & SAVITCH LLP
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