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`Entered: March 10, 2016
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`CAMELBAK PRODUCTS, LLC,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`IGNITE USA, LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2015-01034
`Patent 8,863,979 B2
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`Before SALLY C. MEDLEY, KEN B. BARRETT, and
`AMANDA F. WIEKER, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`WIEKER, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Conduct of the Proceeding
`37 C.F.R. § 42.5
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`On March 8, 2016, Patent Owner sent an electronic mail message to
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`the Board requesting authorization to file a ten page surreply to Petitioner’s
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`reply (Paper 22), along with ten pages of supporting declaration testimony.
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`Patent Owner stated that the surreply would “address new arguments and
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`evidence” raised in Petitioner’s reply. Petitioner opposed the request.
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`Patent Owner’s request is denied. In its request, Patent Owner did not
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`specifically argue that Petitioner’s reply exceeds the proper scope of a reply.
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`Nonetheless, this appears to be Patent Owner’s contention. Whether a reply
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`contains arguments or evidence that is outside the scope of a proper reply
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`under 37 C.F.R. § 42.23(b) is left to the determination of the Board. The
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`Board will determine whether Petitioner’s reply and evidence are outside the
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`scope of a proper reply and evidence when the Board reviews all of the
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`parties’ briefs and prepares the final written decision. If there are improper
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`arguments and evidence presented with a reply, the Board may exclude the
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`reply and related evidence.
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`Patent Owner is permitted to cross-examine reply declarants and, if
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`necessary, Patent Owner may file a motion for observation regarding cross-
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`examination of a reply witness by DUE DATE 4. As noted in the
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`Scheduling Order (Paper 16), a motion for observation on cross-examination
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`is a mechanism to draw the Board’s attention to relevant cross-examination
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`testimony of a reply witness. The observation must be a concise statement
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`of the relevance of precisely identified testimony to a precisely identified
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`argument or portion of an exhibit (including another part of the same
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`testimony). An observation is not an opportunity to raise new issues, to re-
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`argue issues, or to pursue objections.
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`Each observation should be in the following form:
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`In exhibit ___, on page ___, lines ___, the witness testified ___.
`That testimony is relevant to the ____ [stated or argued] on
`page ___, lines ___ of ___. The testimony is relevant because
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`Each observation should not exceed one short paragraph. The Board may
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`decline consideration or entry of argumentative observations. In accordance
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`with the Scheduling Order, Petitioner may file a response to any motion for
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`observation by DUE DATE 5.
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`It is:
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`ORDERED that Patent Owner’s request to file a surreply is denied;
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`FURTHER ORDERED that Patent Owner is authorized to file a
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`motion for observation on cross-examination by DUE DATE 4 consistent
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`with this Order;
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`FURTHER ORDERED that Petitioner is authorized to file a response
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`to any motion for observation by DUE DATE 5 consistent with this Order.
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`PETITIONER:
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`David D'Ascenzo
`david@dascenzoiplaw.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`XXXX David Moreland
`litdocketing@mcciplaw.com
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`Jessica Keesee
`jkeesee@mcciplaw.com
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`Walter Levie, III
`tlevie@mcciplaw.com