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`Presentation of Petitioners
`Old Republic et al
`Old Republic et al.
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`IPR2015-01956, 19575 95 , 957
`U.S. Patent No. 6,519,581
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 1
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`GroundsGrounds
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`• IPR2015-01956• IPR2015 01956
`▫ Claims 1, 8-10, 29, and 36-38: obvious over Graf and Desai
`▫ Claims 2-7, 20-28, and 30-35: obvious over Graf, Desai, and Wahlquist
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`• IPR2015-01957
`▫ Claims 11, 17-19, 39, and 45-47: obvious over Graf and Desai
`▫ Claims 12-16 and 40-44: obvious over Graf, Desai, and Wahlquist
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`Citations are provided to the papers and exhibits filed in IPR2015-01956.
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 2
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`RoadmapRoadmap
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`• OverviewOverview
`• Construction of “Discovery Agent”
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`• Discovery Agent of Grafy g
`• Discovery Rule
`• User Request
`• Automatic Transmission
`• Transmitting Discovery Agent
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 3
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`OverviewOverview
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 4
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`581 Patent
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`Ex. 1001, Abstract; Pet. 5
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`Ex. 1001 at Fig. 1; Inst. Dec. 7
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 5
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`Claim 1
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`1. A method of collecting information, the method comprising:
`transmitting a discovery rule across a communication link
`to a computer system, wherein the discovery rule is to be applied to
`data about the computer system or a user to generate information,
`and wherein the data is collected by a discovery agent located in the
`dcomputer system, and
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`receiving the information from the computer system.
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`Ex 1001 Claim 1
`Ex. 1001, Claim 1
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 6
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`Graf
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`Ex. 1005, 3:19-24; Pet. 11
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 7
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`DATA, DATA2, EXCEPT rules
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`Ex. 1005, 7:52-62; Pet. 11-12
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`Ex. 1005, 8:30-58; Pet. 11-12
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 8
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`Desai
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`Ex. 1006, Fig. 1; Inst. Dec. 16
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`Ex. 1006, 1:65-2:20; Pet. 14, 45
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 9
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`Wahlquist
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`Ex. 1007, Fig. 1; Pet. 15
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`Ex. 1007, 2:5-31; Pet. 15, 50
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 10
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`Construction of “Discovery Agent”Construction of Discovery Agent
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 11
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`Claim 1 – “Discovery Agent” Not Redundant
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`1. A method of collecting information, the method comprising:
`transmitting a discovery rule across a communication link
`to a computer system, wherein the discovery rule is to be applied to
`data about the computer system or a user to generate information,
`and wherein the data is collected by a discovery agent located in the
`dcomputer system, and
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`receiving the information from the computer system.
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`Ex 1001 Claim 1
`Ex. 1001, Claim 1
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 12
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`Institution Decision – “Discovery Agent”
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`Inst. Dec. 10-12
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 13
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`IV – “Discovery Agent”
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`Resp. 6
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 14
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`Dr. Mitzenmacher – “Discovery Agent”
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`Dr. Mitzenmacher
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`Ex. 1003, ¶77; Pet. 9-10
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 15
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`IV – “Discovery Agent”
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`Resp. 6
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 16
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`Kaliski on “Discovery Agent”
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 59:9-19; Reply 4
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`Ex. 1025; Reply 4
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 17
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`IV – “Discovery Engine”
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`Resp. 8
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 18
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`IV – Present Invention
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`Resp. 9
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 19
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`581 Patent – Present Invention
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`Ex. 1001 3:5-21; Reply 73 5 ; p y 7
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 20
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`Unwired Planet, LLC v. Apple Inc.
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`“It is not true that because one sentence in the
`paragraph begins with the present invention
`paragraph begins with the ‘present invention’
`language that everything that follows in the
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`same paragraph limits all subsequent claims.”p g p q
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`Unwired Planet, LLC v. Apple Inc.,
`892 F.3d 1353, 1358 (Fed. Cir. 2016); Reply 7-8
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 21
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`581 Patent – Present Invention
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`Ex. 1001, 2:64-3:12; Reply 8
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`Ex. 1001, 10:63-64; Reply 8
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 22
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`IV – Discovery Agent’s “Central Feature”
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`Resp. 12-13p 3
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 23
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`“Central Feature”
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`1. A method of collecting information, the method comprising:
`transmitting a discovery rule across a communication link
`to a computer system, wherein the discovery rule is to be applied to
`data about the computer system or a user to generate information,
`and wherein the data is collected by a discovery agent located in the
`dcomputer system, and
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`receiving the information from the computer system.
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`Ex 1001 Claim 1
`Ex. 1001, Claim 1
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 24
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`IV – Prosecution History of “Discovery Agent”
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`Resp. 13Resp. 13
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 25
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`Prosecution History of “Discovery Agent”
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`Ex. 1014 116; Reply 10 n.2
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`Ex. 1014 144 at 2:41-44; Reply 10 n.2
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`Ex. 1014 403-404; Reply 10 n.2
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 26
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`Prosecution History of “Discovery Agent”
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 116:3-16; Reply 10
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 27
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`EEx. 1001, 2:1-2; Reply 11R l
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 104:7-14; Reply 11
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 28
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`Resp. 6
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 41:1-13; Reply 11
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 29
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`Discovery Agent of GrafDiscovery Agent of Graf
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 30
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`Graf’s “Discovery Agent”
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`Pet. 22-23
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 31
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`Kaliski on Graf’s “Discovery Agent”
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 125:16-21; Reply 12
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 32
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`IV – “Discovery Agent”
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`Resp. 19
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 33
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`“No Intelligence”
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 127:7-13; Reply 13
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`Ex. 1023, 130:8-15; Reply 13
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 34
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`“No Intelligence”
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`Ex. 1005, 7:52-62; Reply 13
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`Ex. 1005, 8:52-56; Reply 13
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 35
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`Discovery RuleDiscovery Rule
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 36
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`Claim 1
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`1. A method of collecting information, the method comprising:
`transmitting a discovery rule across a communication link
`to a computer system, wherein the discovery rule is to be applied to
`data about the computer system or a user to generate information,
`and wherein the data is collected by a discovery agent located in the
`dcomputer system, and
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`receiving the information from the computer system.
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`Ex 1001 Claim 1
`Ex. 1001, Claim 1
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 37
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`Graf’s “Discovery Rule”
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`Pet. 16
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`Pet. 47
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 38
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`Kaliski on Graf’s “Discovery Agent”
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 125:16-21; Reply 12
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 39
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`Resp. 21
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 40
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`BRI of “Discovery Rule”
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`Pet. 8-9
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 41
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`Desai’s “Discovery Rules”
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`Ex. 1006, 1:53-56; Reply 15
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`Ex. 1006, 2:6-12; Pet. 46
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`Ex. 1006, 6:10-31; Pet. 46
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 42
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`Mitzenmacher on Desai’s “Discovery Rules”
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`Dr. Mitzenmacher
`Dr Mitzenmacher
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`Ex. 1003, ¶101; Reply 15
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 43
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`Kaliski on Desai’s “Discovery Rules”
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`Ex. 1006, 11:57-61; Ex. 2001, ¶39; Resp. 21
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`Pet. 8-9
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 131:6-132:12; Reply 15
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 44
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`User RequestUser Request
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 45
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`Claim 2
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`2. The method of claim 1, further including receiving a user request
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`prior to transmitting the discovery rule and wherein theprior to transmitting the discovery rule and wherein the
`transmitting the discovery rule is without requiring action by the
`user.
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`Ex 1001 Claim 2
`Ex. 1001, Claim 2
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 46
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`Combination of Graf, Desai and Wahlquist
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`Pet. 51
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 47
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`IV - “User” v. “Administrator”
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`Resp 24 25Resp. 24-25
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 48
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`“User” v. “Administrator”
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`Dr. Mitzenmacher
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`Ex. 1003, ¶154; Reply 17
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 49
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`“User” v. “Administrator”
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`Ex. 1005, 5:34-37; Reply 18
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`Ex. 1005, Fig. 4; Reply 18
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 50
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`IV – “Teaches Away”
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`2RResp. 25
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 51
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`Kaliski on “User Request”
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 134:1-8; Reply 19Ex. 1023, 134:1 8; Reply 19
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 52
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`Kaliski on “User Request”
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 135:4-15; Reply 19-20
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 53
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`Kaliski on “User Request”
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`2. The method of claim 1, further including receiving a user request
`prior to transmitting the discovery rule and wherein the
`transmitting the discovery rule is without requiring action by the
`user.
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`Ex. 1001, Claim 2
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 136:23-137:4; Reply 20
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 54
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`Automatic TransmissionAutomatic Transmission
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 55
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`6. The method of claim 1, wherein the discovery rule is transmitted
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`automatically when the computer system establishes a connectionautomatically when the computer system establishes a connection
`with a server.
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`Ex 1001 Claim 6
`Ex. 1001, Claim 6
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 56
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`Dr. Mitzenmacher
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`Ex. 1003, ¶197; Reply 21-22
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 57
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`IV – “Establish” v. “Initiate”
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`Resp. 28
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`Inst. Dec. 34
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 58
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`Transmitting Discovery AgentTransmitting Discovery Agent
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 59
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`7. The method of claim 1, further including transmitting the
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`discovery agent across the communication link to the computerdiscovery agent across the communication link to the computer
`system and the discovery agent and discovery rule are separate code
`sequences.
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`Ex 1001 Claim 7
`Ex. 1001, Claim 7
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 60
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`Pet. 57-58
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 61
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`IV – “Transmitting”
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`Resp. 30Resp. 30
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 62
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`Graf’s “Transmitting”
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`Ex. 1005, 10:40-54; Reply 23
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 63
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`Wahlquist’s “Transmitting”
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`Dr. Mitzenmacher
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`Ex. 1003, ¶106; Pet. 57
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 64
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`Kaliski on “Transmitting”
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`Dr. Kaliski
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`Ex. 1023, 144:6-15; Reply 3
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`IPR2015-01956 and IPR2015-01957, Old Republic Gen'l Insur. Group, et al. v. Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Petitioners Ex. 1026, p. 65