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`Trials@uspto.gov
`571-272-7822 Entered: November 30, 2016
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`____________
`
`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
`____________
`
`OLD REPUBLIC GENERAL INSURANCE GROUP, INC.; OLD
`REPUBLIC INSURANCE COMPANY; OLD REPUBLIC TITLE
`INSURANCE GROUP, INC.; and OLD REPUBLIC NATIONAL TITLE
`INSURANCE COMPANY,
`Petitioner,
`
`v.
`
`INTELLECTUAL VENTURES I LLC,
`Patent Owner.
`____________
`
`Case1 IPR2015-01956 (Patent 6,519,581 B1)
`Case IPR2015-01957 (Patent 6,519,581 B1)
`____________
`
`Before MEREDITH C. PETRAVICK, BEVERLY M. BUNTING, and
`FRANCES L. IPPOLITO, Administrative Patent Judges.
`
`IPPOLITO, Administrative Patent Judge.
`
`
`HEARING ORDER
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
`
`
`
`1 We exercise our discretion to issue a common paper in each proceeding
`with a joint caption. The parties are not authorized to do the same.
`
`

`
`IPR2015-01956 (Patent 6,519,581 B1)
`IPR2015-01957 (Patent 6,519,581 B1)
`Petitioner and Patent Owner request oral hearings for each of the
`above-identified proceedings pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70. IPR2015-
`01956 (Papers 28, 29); IPR2015-01957 (Papers 27, 28). The parties further
`request that the hearing in IPR2015-01956 be consolidated with that in
`IPR2015-01957 and that each party be allotted sixty minutes (60) of total
`argument time. Id. These requests are granted.
`Accordingly, a consolidated hearing for IPR2015-01956 and
`IPR2015-01957 will be held on December 19, 2016, beginning at 1:30 p.m.
`Eastern Time at the Midwest Regional Office, 300 River Place South,
`Suite 2900, Detroit, Michigan. The Board will provide a court reporter for
`the hearing and the reporter’s transcript will constitute the official record of
`the hearing. Statements made in the consolidated hearing will be deemed
`applicable to whichever case or cases the underlying record of which
`supports the assertion. Each party will have sixty (60) minutes of total
`argument time. Each side will present arguments for both proceedings
`during the allotted time, and Petitioner bears the ultimate burden of proof
`that the claims at issue in this review are unpatentable. Therefore, Petitioner
`will proceed first to present its case with regard to the challenged claims on
`which basis we instituted trial. Thereafter, Patent Owner will respond to
`Petitioner’s case. After that, Petitioner will make use of the rest of its time
`responding to Patent Owner. New arguments not previously presented in the
`parties’ substantive papers in this proceeding should not be raised at oral
`hearing.
`The hearing will be open to the public for in-person attendance that
`will be accommodated on a first-come, first-served basis. To facilitate
`planning for use of the regional-office hearing room, each party is asked to
`send an email message to Trials@uspto.gov five days prior to the hearing,
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`2
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`

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`IPR2015-01956 (Patent 6,519,581 B1)
`IPR2015-01957 (Patent 6,519,581 B1)
`indicating the number planning to attend the hearing for its side (attorneys
`and others). If the parties have any concern about disclosing confidential
`information, they are requested to contact the Board at least 10 days in
`advance of the hearing to discuss the matter. Additional information
`regarding hearings generally is available at https://www.uspto.gov/patents-
`application-process/patent-trial-and-appeal-board/hearings. To the extent
`that either party anticipates a need for particular “Patent Office resources”
`for the hearing, please send requests to Trials@uspto.gov.
`Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b), demonstrative exhibits must be served
`seven business days prior to the hearing. The parties shall confer with each
`other regarding any objections to demonstrative exhibits in each proceeding,
`and file demonstrative exhibits with the Board at least two business days
`prior to the hearing. For any issue that cannot be resolved after conferring
`with the opposing party, the parties must request a conference call with the
`Board that is to be conducted at least two business days prior to the hearing.
`The parties are directed to St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Division, Inc.
`v. The Board of Regents of the University of Michigan, Case No. IPR2013-
`00041 (PTAB Jan. 27, 2014) (Paper 65), and CBS Interactive Inc. v.
`Helferich Patent Licensing LLC, IPR2013-00033 (PTAB Oct. 23, 2013)
`(Paper 118), regarding the appropriate content of demonstrative exhibits.
`The parties are reminded that the presenter must identify clearly and
`specifically each demonstrative exhibit (e.g., by slide or screen number)
`referenced during the hearings to ensure the clarity and accuracy of the
`reporter’s transcripts. The parties also should note that at least one member
`of the panel will be attending the hearing electronically from a remote
`location and that if any demonstrative is not made fully available or visible
`to the panel, that demonstrative will not be considered. Because of
`
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`

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`IPR2015-01956 (Patent 6,519,581 B1)
`IPR2015-01957 (Patent 6,519,581 B1)
`limitations of the audio transmission systems in our hearing rooms, the
`presenter may speak only when standing at the hearing room lectern.
`The Board expects lead counsel for Petitioner and Patent Owner to be
`present at the hearing, although any back-up counsel may make the actual
`presentation, in whole or in part. If lead counsel for a party will not be in
`attendance at the hearing, the Board should be notified via a joint conference
`call no later than two days prior to the hearing to discuss the matter.
`Requests for audio-visual equipment at the hearing are to be made
`five days in advance of the hearing date. The requests must be sent to
`Trials@uspto.gov. If the requests are not received timely, equipment may
`not be available on the day of the hearing.
`
`PETITIONER:
`Joseph A. Micallef
`Russell E. Cass
`Erik J. Carlson
`Ryan Phelan
`Vernon M. Winters
`SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP
`iprnotices@sidley.com
`rcass@sidley.com
`ecarlson@sidley.com
`rphelan@sidley.com
`vwinters@sidley.com
`
`
`
`PATENT OWNER:
`James P. Murphy
`Henry A. Petri, Jr.
`Q. Todd Dickinson
`NOVAK DRUCE CONNOLLY BOVE + QUIGG LLP
`james.murphy@novakdruce.com
`henry.petri@novakdruce.com
`todd.dickinson@novakdruce.com
`
`4
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`

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`IPR2015-01956 (Patent 6,519,581 B1)
`IPR2015-01957 (Patent 6,519,581 B1)
`
`Tim R. Seeley
`James R. Hietala
`INTELLECTURAL VENTURES
`tim@intven.com
`jhietala@intven.com
`
`
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