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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`FPUSA, LLC,
`Petitioner,
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`M-I, LLC
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2016-00213 (Patent 9,004,288 B2)
`Case IPR2016-00295 (Patent 9,074,440 B2)
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`Held: April 24, 2017
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`BEFORE: JAMES A. TARTAL, CARL M. DEFRANCO, and
`TIMOTHY J. GOODSON, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`The above-entitled matter came on for hearing on Monday, April
`24, 2017, commencing at 1:00 p.m., at the U.S. Patent and
`Trademark Office, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria, Virginia.
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`ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER:
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`DOUGLAS F. STEWART, ESQ.
`Bracewell
`701 Fifth Avenue, Suite 6200
`Seattle, Washington 98104-7018
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`BRAD Y. CHIN, ESQ.
`KEVIN R. TAMM, ESQ.
`ANDREW W. ZEVE, ESQ.
`Bracewell
`711 Louisiana Street, Suite 2300
`Houston, Texas 77002-2770
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`ON BEHALF OF PATENT OWNER:
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`BARRY J. SCHINDLER, ESQ.
`Greenberg Traurig
`500 Campus Drive, Suite 400
`Florham Park, New Jersey 07932-0677
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`AMY L. KRAMER, ESQ.
`Greenberg Traurig
`The Tabor Center
`1200-17th Street, Suite 2400
`Denver, Colorado 80202
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`DWAYNE L. MASON, ESQ.
`Greenberg Traurig
`1000 Louisiana Street, Suite 1700
`Houston, Texas 77002
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`P R O C E E D I N G S
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`JUDGE TARTAL: Please be seated. Good afternoon
`and welcome. We are here for a final hearing in two separate
`inter partes review cases. Both are captioned FPUSA, LLC,
`Petitioner, vs. M-I LLC, Patent Owner. The first case is
`IPR2016-00213, concerning U.S. patent 9,004,288 B2; and the
`second case is IPR2016-00295, concerning U.S. patent 9,074,440
`B2.
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`First let me begin by introducing the panel. I am joined
`by Judge DeFranco and Judge Goodson, both remotely, and I am
`Judge Tartal. If we could begin with the parties' appearances,
`please. Who do we have today representing Petitioner?
`MR. STEWART: Your Honor, Doug Stewart from
`Bracewell.
`JUDGE TARTAL: Welcome.
`And on behalf of Patent Owner?
`MR. SCHINDLER: Good afternoon, Your Honor.
`Barry Schindler from the law firm of Greenberg Traurig, and with
`me is Amy Kramer from my firm.
`JUDGE TARTAL: Welcome today.
`We set forth the procedure for today's hearing in our
`trial order, and as a reminder, each party will have 60 minutes of
`total time to present arguments in both cases. Petitioner has the
`burden of proof and will go first. Our understanding is that
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`Petitioner will open jointly for both cases; Patent Owner will then
`present opposition arguments jointly for both cases; and then, to
`the extent Petitioner reserves time, Petitioner will present
`arguments in reply jointly for both cases.
`Are there any questions in that regard, Counsel?
`MR. STEWART: No, Your Honor.
`MR. SCHINDLER: Yes, Your Honor, just one
`question. Judge DeFranco, is he -- I don't see him on a screen.
`JUDGE TARTAL: Judge DeFranco is by
`teleconference.
`MR. SCHINDLER: Okay, that's fine. Judge Goodson,
`I'm glad to see you, but you are on one, two, three, four, screens.
`So I just wanted to make sure I wasn't losing it.
`JUDGE TARTAL: No, so he is on by teleconference
`without video connection.
`MR. SCHINDLER: Can he see the PowerPoint, can he
`see that?
`JUDGE TARTAL: We have -- he cannot see -- and this
`goes for the remote locations as well -- typically the camera
`doesn't capture what's shown on the display screen here, but the
`presentations are submitted ahead of time, and so that's why we
`ask when that when you are doing your presentation, that you
`clearly identify what slide or what screen or what demonstrative
`you're referring to, because for those who are remote, they may
`not otherwise be aware of what document you're pointing to.
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`MR. SCHINDLER: Great. Thank you, Your Honor.
`JUDGE DEFRANCO: Counsel, this is Judge
`DeFranco. To make it clear, I am on the phone and I am listening
`and I do have your demonstratives in front of me.
`MR. SCHINDLER: Wonderful. Thank you.
`MR. STEWART: Your Honor, just one point. We
`have some slides up. It appears that the version that we have up
`on the screen is an older version that has the same changes that
`were made pursuant to the conference with opposing counsel, but
`they are missing the numbers. So I will do my best to refer to
`them as we kind of go along.
`JUDGE TARTAL: Okay. That would be helpful for
`the record as well as for the judges participating, so we are able to
`follow when we are referring back to it.
`So reiterating what I basically just said, Judges
`DeFranco and Goodson are attending remotely and have copies of
`the relevant materials, but may not be able to view the images
`that are projected here in Alexandria, so for clarity in the
`transcript, when you refer to an exhibit on the screen, please state
`for the record the exhibit and page number, or for demonstratives,
`the slide number to which you are referring.
`We ask and remind the parties that under no
`circumstances are you to interrupt the other party while that party
`is presenting its arguments and demonstratives.
`Are there any questions on behalf of Patent Owner?
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`MR. SCHINDLER: No, Your Honor.
`JUDGE TARTAL: Any questions on behalf of
`Petitioner?
`MR. STEWART: No, Your Honor.
`JUDGE TARTAL: Petitioner, is there a particular
`amount of the 60 minutes that you would ask to reserve for your
`response?
`MR. STEWART: Yes, Your Honor. I would like to
`reserve 20 minutes.
`JUDGE TARTAL: Okay. Counsel, you may begin
`when you're ready.
`MR. STEWART: Thank you, Your Honors. Good
`afternoon.
`We're here today on these two IPRs, the '288 patent and
`the '440 patent. For simplicity, I am going to start with the '288
`patent and work through the various references and the claim
`limitations from the '288. The '440, which is a continuation of the
`'288, has many of the same limitations, so that argument will be a
`little bit truncated.
`Additionally, I am going to focus on a handful of the
`independent claims. I believe that the dependent claims basically
`rise or fall with the independent claims. I don't believe either
`party has really taken much issue with the scope of the dependent
`claims being different.
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`The technology that we're talking about here are
`basically simple mechanical systems for separating liquids and
`solids, and specifically the use of a shaker in conjunction with a
`vacuum system, and in some embodiments and some claims, the
`use of a degassing chamber. This technology is used in a variety
`of industries where it is necessary to separate liquids and solids.
`Your Honor, may I ask a question? Is it possible to
`have the clock turned on?
`JUDGE TARTAL: Yes.
`MR. SCHINDLER: You shouldn't have asked.
`MR. STEWART: I should have just kept going?
`JUDGE TARTAL: I had the clock running on my desk,
`but for your convenience, I can --
`MR. SCHINDLER: Yes.
`MR. STEWART: I apologize. I left my watch at home.
`MR. SCHINDLER: I have got three of them.
`JUDGE TARTAL: Hold on, just a minute.
`MR. STEWART: Great, thank you.
`JUDGE TARTAL: Certainly.
`MR. STEWART: So, Your Honor, I will start with the
`102 references, that would be the Derrick reference and the
`Vasshus reference. Starting with the '288 patent, claim 1, one
`correction on this slide -- and I am now on the second slide of the
`deck for Judge DeFranco's benefit -- it says there paragraph 78 at
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`the top, and that should actually refer to paragraph 79. I
`apologize for the typo.
`In terms of this claim and the Derrick reference, there's
`not really a dispute as to the first three claim limitations. The
`first limitation is introducing a slurry to a shaker, which Derrick
`clearly discloses. The second is flowing the -- and we have got a
`little animation here as well that you can see the -- in the figure,
`the vibratory screen --
`JUDGE GOODSON: Counsel, before you dive into the
`grounds here, could I ask a couple of claim construction
`questions? I think this might be a good time to do that if it's
`okay.
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`MR. STEWART: Sure.
`JUDGE GOODSON: The first question I have is about
`"shaker." The Patent Owner proposed a construction of that to
`mean "vibratory separator used to remove cuttings and other solid
`particles from drilling fluid used in the oil and gas industry," and
`Petitioner's reply was that that construction was unduly narrow
`because it's -- it's narrowed to a specific industry, and shakers
`have applicability in many industries.
`What about the first part of Patent Owner's construction,
`would the Petitioner object to a construction that a shaker means
`a vibratory separator?
`MR. STEWART: No, Your Honor. I believe that's
`what a shaker is. It is a vibratory separator. We did not propose
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`a construction in our petition because it's commonly understood
`to be a vibratory separator, but as we explained in our reply brief,
`we do believe going beyond that would be unduly narrowing the
`scope of the claim, particularly since the claim refers to it as a
`shaker.
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`JUDGE GOODSON: Okay. The other term I wanted
`to ask about is "degassing chamber." The Petitioner's proposed
`construction there is that it includes any chamber under at least
`partial vacuum which separates gas from liquids, and I'm
`wondering why it has to be under at least a partial vacuum.
`MR. STEWART: Your Honor, the position taken in the
`underlying litigation was that a degassing chamber was any
`chamber that could separate gas and liquid. I agree that that
`additional limitation of partial vacuum doesn't really seem
`necessary. There are a variety of ways that you can separate gas
`and liquid. Certainly applying a vacuum is one of them, applying
`some sort of pressure differential is one of those methods, but
`there are other ways. So I would propose that that is unduly
`narrow as well.
`JUDGE GOODSON: Okay. That was your
`construction, though, right, that it has to be under at least a partial
`vacuum?
`MR. STEWART: Well, in this case what we're talking
`about is, for the purposes of the references, that the degassing
`chambers are under partial vacuum, so -- but we didn't -- I don't
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`believe we proposed a construction of "degassing chamber"
`specifically in our petition.
`I apologize, Your Honor. I'm getting confused with the
`District Court litigation which I was also involved in.
`JUDGE GOODSON: Yeah, I am looking on page 13 of
`your petition in the '213 IPR, and I was just reading the
`construction that you proposed there, so that was the source of
`my question.
`MR. STEWART: Oh, I see. Your Honor, I apologize.
`I believe that was not adopted by the Board in initiating the
`proceeding, which may be the source of my confusion, but
`certainly for purposes of the references that we have here, there is
`a vacuum applied to the degassing chamber elements, although
`generally speaking, it's true that the degassing chamber could
`occur by a variety of methods. That's perhaps a litigation-based
`construction, but for purposes of these references, it seems that a
`vacuum would be necessary.
`JUDGE GOODSON: Okay, thank you.
`MR. STEWART: Okay. So turning back to Derrick,
`claim 1, the next claim limitation, there's a typo there, but it
`should be "flowing the slurry over the first screen." You can see
`there's an inlet 222 to the left of the screen panels, and that's the
`inlet through which the slurry is presented to the screens.
`There's a first pressure differential that is applied to the
`first screen, which would be the green screen, and we've
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`highlighted that in blue, where the pressure differential is applied,
`and that's by virtue of a vacuum or suction chamber.
`The last element is controlling air flow under at least a
`portion of the first screen to prevent stalling of the slurry on the
`screen, and this is where we get to a dispute, but as to this last
`element, during prosecution of the '288 patent, M-I did
`acknowledge and admit that Derrick disclosed controlling air
`flow, and that was Exhibit 1011, 1-0-1-1, on page 8, which is an
`office action response from November 12th, 2014.
`And in that case, M-I did acknowledge that Derrick
`discloses controlling air flow; however, they went on to argue
`that it controlled air flow consistent with one specific
`embodiment disclosed in the '288 patent, and that is the same
`embodiment that is the subject of the Patent Owner's expert
`declaration, Mr. Palmer's declaration, paragraph 29, which
`focuses on an embodiment, which is described at paragraph 44 of
`Derrick, where a positive pressure is applied to unclog the screens
`after a vacuum has been applied.
`But that disclosure of the single embodiment, which
`was relied upon by the Patent Owner to distinguish Derrick, is not
`the only embodiment in Derrick, and Derrick goes on to describe
`other embodiments which specifically accomplish the same
`objective of the '288 patent, claim 1, and specifically paragraphs
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`contradicts Mr. Palmer's assertion that positive pressure must be
`applied to unclog the screens.
`Specifically, paragraph 69 describes "intermittently
`applying a greater suction and a lesser suction." This is at the top
`of page 7 of the Derrick reference. It's the end of paragraph 69.
`It says, "Intermittently applying a greater suction and a lesser
`suction by intermittently venting the chamber to produce periods
`of lesser suction." In other words, the screens are continuously
`under vacuum, there is no positive pressure applied to unclog the
`screens, and that is the exact scope of the claim and the exact
`disclosure that is made in the '288 patent.
`Similarly, paragraph 79 of the Derrick reference, which
`is at the bottom of page 8, left-hand column, the claim there -- the
`specification there talks about the alternate application of suction
`and release of suction, which is referred to as being intermittent,
`and that is to cause coarse particles to have liquid and fine
`particles withdrawn therefrom, and coarse particles are thereafter
`conveyed off the vibratory screening machine.
`So this concept of applying a variety of vacuum
`pressures, not positive pressure blowing out but vacuum pressure,
`suction control, is clearly disclosed in Derrick, and it is identical
`to what's set forth in the '288 patent; specifically, the concept of
`toggling, which is found in the '288 patent at column 6, lines 54
`to 56. That is the concept that is claimed and set forth in the '288
`patent, is intermittent application of suction to reduce stalling.
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`Now, there's some question about whether or not -- I
`believe M-I's position would be that there's some question as to
`whether or not Derrick's objective was to prevent stalling, but that
`is the object Derrick, because Derrick is a patent that is directed
`to the conveyance of slurry across the screens. That's set forth in
`the abstract. The abstract specifically says that it's a method and
`apparatus for screening of slurry in which the slurry is vibrated
`and conveyed across a screen.
`So the goal here of Derrick is to have slurry enter one
`end of the system, be passed along the series of screens,
`maximize the withdrawal of fluid, and then pass forward to be
`conveyed to -- in the case of paragraph 79, into an oversized
`container, which is referred to in the specification.
`Now, this concept, this idea, was necessary because
`some of the prior art systems ran into some problems;
`specifically, the '288 patent talks about a prior art reference to
`Hensley, where there was a screen under the entire system that
`was under vacuum, and that caused the stalling of material on the
`screen, which resulted in the slurry being held up and not being
`able to be conveyed.
`So Derrick and the '288 patent are addressing the same
`problem, and Derrick disclosed techniques that are identical to
`those in the '288 patent, which the examiner was not made aware
`of in the context of overcoming that Derrick rejection.
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`Additional parts of Derrick that are helpful in this
`regard are paragraph 77, which talks about the fact that the
`operator of the system can vary the periods of application of
`suction, as well as paragraph 81, which describes how the suction
`period may be adjusted for any desired length of time. So there is
`ample disclosure in Derrick about the application of intermittent
`suction to prevent stalling of the slurry on the screen.
`The next few slides are simply another reference to this
`where it discloses some of these citations that I have referred to,
`so I'll just fast-forward through those, and turn to the Vasshus
`reference as it relates to claim 16.
`Claim 16 is a system claim. Claim 1 was a method
`claim. In this case, the Vasshus system is described as having a
`first screen having an upper side and a lower side, consistent with
`the first element of claim 16. That would be the green screen or
`the green item there in the animation. And there's also a sieving
`apparatus, which is the yellow portion, which is resting on top in
`item 7, which is a supply channel.
`There's a pressure differential generator, which is a
`vacuum pump, and there's a vacuum applied through the suction
`nozzles, which are identified in blue, and the vacuum is applied to
`those suction nozzles to create a pressure differential, which
`applies to the green portion, which is the first screen.
`The third element of claim 16 requires a sump. The
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`vacuum is turned on.
`And then the last element is a degassing chamber, and a
`degassing chamber is -- that would be element number 5, which
`is the item on the right-hand side of this figure. The item on the
`left is the sieving unit or the separation unit.
`Now, as to this -- as to this reference, one of the
`arguments that M-I makes is that this is not a shaker, and
`specifically they make that argument because in this particular
`embodiment, in the figure, item 13, which is the first screen, is a
`rotating sieving member, but Vasshus clearly discloses additional
`embodiments, which would be vibratory shakers consistent with
`common understanding in the industry.
`Specifically, there's a portion of the spec, column 5,
`lines 9 to 15, in which it describes that the endless sieving
`element, 13, which is the green part, could be replaced by a fixed
`sieving element, and that fixed sieving element could be -- could
`be vibrated or oscillated using some sort of mechanism. So it
`describes the fixed sieving with oscillation or vibration, which is
`the definition of a shaker.
`The second issue that is brought up by M-I about this
`reference is that the second element, which describes the pressure
`differential, pulling of a pressure through the first screen with
`respect to the second screen, but not with regard to the second
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`Claim 16, by its language, requires that the first screen
`have a pressure and that the second screen could have, for
`example, atmospheric pressure, no vacuum. And as the Board
`acknowledged in granting the petition, Vasshus states that
`another -- another option here would be present in Figure --
`because of -- in Figure 1, the sieving element 9, which is on the
`left-hand side of the figure, in part 3, that is a fixed sieving
`element which is open to the atmosphere. There is no suction
`under that -- under that portion of the -- of the device.
`So in Figure 4, the fluid passes through 9, it comes in to
`collection chamber 7, which is that portion on the left, it falls
`onto sieving element 9, which feeds by gravity down to the
`bottom of the tank, and then the remainder falls onto the green
`endless sieving member, where it is subject to the vacuum forces.
`This is set forth clearly at column 5, lines 40 to 42, of
`the Vasshus reference, where it describes that the supply portion
`7, which is there on the left, is not enclosed by ceiling plate 30.
`So sealing plate 30 is a metal plate which would cover the
`right-hand portion of the device. And sieving device 9 is,
`therefore, open to the atmospheric pressure. There is no vacuum
`applied underneath it, so there is no pressure differential between
`the area above and the area below fixed sieving member -- fixed
`sieving device number 9. So vacuum is applied by 20 under
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`element 13, and that's necessarily going to be different than the
`atmospheric pressure, which is present under fixed sieving
`element 9.
`Turning next to some 103 combinations, this would
`be -- the first combinations to talk about would be with regard to
`Ennis being combined with -- there are three references, Logue,
`Riedel, and Lee, that we will walk through. So this the '288
`patent, claim 1. And in this case, Ennis discloses a plurality of
`screens, panels, which are identified here in the figure, for
`purposes of introducing a slurry to the shaker. The slurry --
`again, a typo here in claim 1 -- is flowed over the first screen, and
`then a pressure differential is applied via the vacuum chamber
`there at the back end of the device.
`In terms of controlling air flow, the -- in this particular
`reference, in Ennis, the air flow is constant, so whereas the
`Hensley device had a constant pressure applied to a screen under
`the entire structure, which was the prior art identified in the
`specification of the '288, in the Ennis reference, the vacuum is
`applied under only a portion of the screen.
`But in order to combine it to get a 103 combination, one
`would look to Ennis, because the -- would look to Logue, because
`the problem of Ennis is going to be the same as the problem of
`Hensley, which is that under a constant pressure, there will
`eventually be a build-up of material that's unable to move, and
`that will prevent the conveyance of slurry through the apparatus.
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`And so Logue provides the intermittent suction that would be
`applied to modulate the application of the vacuum.
`And so what Logue describes is a series of valves,
`which are manipulated by two cams, and then there are two
`passages. One is a suction passage, which is -- creates vacuum,
`and then there is an atmospheric or low-pressure opening 42,
`which provides atmospheric pressure to be brought into the
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`Lee is another combination with Ennis. These are the
`same -- the same kind of concepts. There is basically a control
`system in Lee that allows you to adjust the pressure along this
`foraminous medium, which is a screening sieving device, and
`there are a series of screens underneath that into which fluid
`could be captured, and there is a mechanism to adjust these
`valves to create a situation where you have control of where the
`vacuum is being applied, and you can use that -- those valves to
`adjust the vacuum under the screen, under the endless sieving
`member there, to allow for the suction into the compartment.
`And then the third reference that one could combine
`with Ennis is this concept from a -- an older patent, the same
`concept. There's a vacuum pump, which is 19 in the figure,
`Figure 1, and there's a valve 22, which is in conduit and can be
`manipulated to discontinuously operate to effect the loosening of
`the bottom screen, to clean the screen.
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`So the point is that these references establish that it's a
`well-known concept to utilize intermittent vacuum, the
`application of discontinuous vacuum, intermittent vacuum, of
`different forces to modulate the flow of material across a screen
`and to prevent stalling or clogging or anything of that nature.
`It's worth noting that M-I's argument in the context of
`this series of combinations is that, first, the slurry referred to in
`Ennis is not a slurry according to the '288 because Ennis is
`directed to dewatering. There was some construction or some
`evaluation of that by the Board in granting the petition and
`specifically reference to column 1 of Ennis, lines 12 to 22, where
`it describes that the techniques of Ennis can be applied to a
`variety of different industries, different materials, and this
`concept, this disclosure of Ennis, can be applied equally to the oil
`and gas industry.
`It's also --
`JUDGE GOODSON: Counsel, can I just ask, has there
`been any evidence developed in the trial since institution on the
`obviousness of using this combination for a slurry that has a
`drilling fluid component?
`MR. STEWART: Your Honor, we have -- our expert
`declaration, Peter Matthews, who has described the use of this
`combination and of Ennis for a slurry that would be of the oil and
`gas variety, specifically that this technology is applicable to a
`wide variety.
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`It's worth noting also that Derrick, who we just spoke
`about and the first reference, which is very clearly from the oil
`and gas industry, is a co-inventor on Ennis. So this technology
`spans across industries, and it is useful in a variety of different
`technical fields. If the objective is to separate solids from liquids,
`this is the technique that people use.
`JUDGE GOODSON: You -- when you said that -- that
`Petitioner's expert discussed this in the declaration, there was
`only one declaration, correct? There was no additional --
`MR. STEWART: Correct.
`JUDGE GOODSON: -- declaration.
`MR. STEWART: Correct, Your Honor.
`JUDGE GOODSON: And if you could -- well, you
`don't have to do this right now, but if you get a moment, if you
`could point me to the specific paragraph in the Matthews
`declaration that you're referring to, I would appreciate it.
`MR. STEWART: Okay. We will do that, and I will get
`it to you in the reply portion.
`Just another point that is worth describing about Ennis
`is that we cite here in the slides to a textbook -- this was cited in a
`footnote in our petition, Shale Shakers and Fluid Drilling
`Systems, and the point that we were trying to make here is that it's
`commonly understood and well understood that a degassing
`chamber follows from a -- follows from a shaker.
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`That's a commonly understood concept, that you need to
`have a degassing chamber immediately after a shaker. So this --
`this concept of applying a shaker together with a degassing
`chamber, which is in claim 16, is something that's commonly
`understood.
`So when you turn to the combinations, the 103
`combinations for claim 16, we have got this Ennis reference,
`again, which can be combined with that Logue reference. Now,
`the Logue reference has a chamber 40, which is highlighted here
`in black, so it's a bit hard to see -- I apologize for that -- and it's
`connected via that cam and valve system to suction passage 41,
`and the suction -- the low-pressure opening 42 is on the
`right-hand side. That's operated by a different valve and cam
`system.
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`And so what happens is the compartment up at the top,
`15a, fills with fluid and with entrained and other gases, and that
`fluid flows down through 22a, which is this conduit, into chamber
`40. And when the cam opens the valve, the fluid is flushed out
`because 41 is under vacuum.
`And when the cams have changed, there's an
`opportunity for atmospheric pressure to flow back into the system
`and push the remaining gas that is trailing down conduit 22a back
`out -- through conduit 22a, back up through 15a, and back into
`the atmosphere.
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`So for purposes of claim 16, Ennis provides the other
`elements, which we've already discussed and described, and then
`Logue explains how a degassing chamber would -- would work
`for purposes of maintaining the -- collecting the -- the vapor and
`air.
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`It's important to note that in the '288 patent, claim 16,
`this is going to be different than the '440 patent, because this
`claim requires that all of the gas -- all of the air vapor and drilling
`fluid flow into the same compartment. That's an important
`distinction for some of the other claims.
`JUDGE GOODSON: So looking at your slide 11 here,
`whatever is in the conduit 22 when the -- the valve is open, I
`guess it's 38, whatever -- everything that's in conduit 22, whether
`it's gas or liquid, it's all going to go out this conduit 4