`571.272.7822
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`Paper 47
`Entered: September 1, 2017
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`CISCO SYSTEMS, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`FOCAL IP, LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`Cases: IPR2016-012541
`Patent 8,457,113 B2
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`Before SALLY C. MEDLEY, JONI Y. CHANG, and
`BARBARA A. PARVIS, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`PARVIS, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Request for Oral Hearing
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
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`We instituted inter partes review (Paper 15)2 in the proceedings listed
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`in the Appendix and issued a consolidated Scheduling Order (Paper 16),
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`1 This Order addresses the same issues in the inter partes reviews listed in
`the Appendix. Therefore, we issue one Order to be filed in all of the cases.
`The parties, however, are not authorized to use this style of filing in
`subsequent papers.
`2 Paper numbers are provided for IPR2016-01254, unless otherwise noted.
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`IPR2016-01254
`Patent 8,457,113 B2
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`which sets the date for oral hearing to September 19, 2017, if oral hearing is
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`requested by either party and granted by the Board. The parties requested an
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`oral hearing pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70 in each of the inter partes review
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`proceedings listed in the Appendix. See, e.g., Paper 40; Paper 42. Upon
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`consideration by the panel, the parties’ requests are granted.
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`The hearing will commence at 10:00 AM Eastern Time, on
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`September 19, 2017, and will be conducted at the UPSTO Headquarters,
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`Ninth Floor of Madison Building East, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria,
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`Virginia, 22314.3 The parties will be given a one hour break at 12:00 PM
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`Eastern Time. The hearing will be open to the public for in-person
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`attendance that will be accommodated on a first come first serve basis.
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`The parties have provided their proposals for the oral hearing. Upon
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`review of the record, we grant amounts of time set forth in the table below
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`for oral argument.
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`IPRs
`YMAX’s IPR2016-01256,
`IPR2016-01258, IPR2016-01260
`Cisco’s IPR2016-01254 and
`IPR2016-01257
`Bright House Networks’ IPR2016-
`01259, IPR2016-01261, IPR2016-
`01262, IPR2016-01263
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`Minutes for Oral Argument
`60 minutes per side
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`30 minutes per side
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`60 minutes per side
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`Because Petitioner bears the ultimate burden of proof that the
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`challenged claims are unpatentable, each Petitioner will proceed first to
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`present its case as to the challenged claims of the challenged patents and
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`3 See https://www.uspto.gov/about-us/uspto-locations/alexandria-virginia-
`headquarters for additional information.
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`IPR2016-01254
`Patent 8,457,113 B2
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`instituted grounds of unpatentability. Thereafter, Patent Owner will respond
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`to Petitioner’s case and present its case on its motions to amend. After that,
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`Petitioner will make use of the rest of its time for its rebuttal, responding to
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`Patent Owner’s specific arguments presented at the oral hearing, as well as
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`responding to Patent Owner’s case on its motions to amend. Patent Owner,
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`then, will make use of the rest of its time for its rebuttal on only its motions
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`to amend. No live testimony from any witness will be taken at the oral
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`argument.
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`The parties are reminded that under 37 C.F.R. § 42.53(f)(7), a
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`proponent of deposition testimony must file such testimony as an exhibit.
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`The Board will not consider any deposition testimony that has not been so
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`filed.
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`Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b), demonstrative exhibits must be served no
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`later than seven business days before the hearing date. They shall be filed
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`with the Board no later than five business days prior to the hearing date. The
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`parties must initiate a conference call with the Board at least three business
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`days prior to the hearing to resolve any dispute over the propriety of each
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`party’s demonstrative exhibits. The parties are directed to St. Jude Medical,
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`Cardiology Division, Inc. v. The Board of Regents of the University of
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`Michigan, Case IPR2013-00041 (PTAB Jan. 27, 2014) (Paper 65), for
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`guidance regarding the appropriate content of demonstrative exhibits. See
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`also CBS Interactive Inc. v. Helferich Patent Licensing, LLC, Case
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`IPR2013-00033 (PTAB Oct. 23, 2013) (Paper 118) (The Board has the
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`discretion to limit the parties’ demonstratives to pages in the record should
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`there be no easy resolution to objections over demonstratives.).
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`The Board expects lead counsel for each party to be present at oral
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`hearing, although any backup counsel may make the actual presentation, in
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`whole or in part. If lead counsel for either party is unable to attend the oral
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`argument, the Board should be notified via a joint telephone conference call
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`no later than five business days prior to the oral hearing to discuss the
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`matter.
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`The Board will provide a court reporter for the hearing, and the
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`reporter’s transcript will constitute the official record of the hearing. The
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`hearing transcript will be entered in the record of these proceedings.
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`Any requests regarding special equipment or needs, such as for audio
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`visual equipment, should be directed to Trials@uspto.gov. Requests for
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`audio-visual equipment are to be made at least five business days in advance
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`of the hearing date.
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`PETITIONER:
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`Patrick McPherson
`Christopher Tyson
`pdmcpherson@duanemorris.com
`jtyson@duanemorris.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`Brent Bumgardner
`John Murphy
`bbumgardner@nbclaw.net
`murphy@nelbum.com
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`IPR2016-01254
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`APPENDIX4
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`U.S. Patent
`No.
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`Inter Partes
`Review
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`7,764,777 B2 IPR2016-01258
`IPR2016-01262
`8,155,298 B2 IPR2016-01256
`IPR2016-01259
`IPR2016-01263
`8,457,113 B2 IPR2016-01254
`IPR2016-01257
`IPR2016-01260
`IPR2016-01261
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`Petitioner’s
`Oral Hearing
`Request
`Paper 44
`Paper 49
`Paper 39
`Paper 47
`Paper 51
`Paper 40
`Paper 43
`Paper 44
`Paper 49
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`Patent Owner’s
`Oral Hearing
`Request
`Paper 43
`Paper 48
`Paper 38
`Paper 46
`Paper 50
`Paper 42
`Paper 42
`Paper 43
`Paper 48
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`4 Bright House Networks, LLC, WideOpenWest Finance, LLC, Knology of
`Florida, Inc., and Birch Communications are Petitioner in IPR2016-01259,
`-01261, -01262, and -01263.
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`YMax Corporation is Petitioner in IPR2016-01256, -01258, and -01260.
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`Cisco Systems, Inc. is Petitioner in IPR2016-01254 and -01257.
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