`571-272-7822
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`Paper No. 79
`Entered: September 19, 2018
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`COASTAL INDUSTRIES, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`SHOWER ENCLOSURES AMERICA, INC.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2017-00573
`Patent 7,174,944
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`Before MICHAEL W. KIM, CARL M. DEFRANCO, and
`ALYSSA A. FINAMORE, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`KIM, Administrative Patent Judge
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`ORDER
`Supplemental Trial Hearing
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
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`Patent Owner and Petitioner each request a supplemental oral hearing
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`pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70. Papers 72, 73. Petitioner requests that the
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`supplemental oral hearing be held in-person. Paper 72, 1. The requests are
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`granted. As this is a supplemental oral hearing, it will be limited to claims,
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`grounds, and issues to which the parties did not have an opportunity to present at
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`the previous oral hearing held on March 28, 2018. In general, that is limited to
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`(1) the challenged claims and grounds on which the Board instituted trial on
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`April 30, 2018 (Paper 44), and (2) issues concerning Patent Owner’s Motion to
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`Amend.
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`The supplemental oral hearing shall commence at 1:00 PM Eastern Time on
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`October 3, 2018, on the ninth floor of Madison Building East, 600 Dulany Street,
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`Alexandria, Virginia. The supplemental oral hearing will be open to the public for
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`in-person attendance that will be accommodated on a first-come, first-served basis.
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`The Board will provide a court reporter for the supplemental oral hearing, and the
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`reporter’s transcript will constitute the official record of the supplemental oral
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`hearing.
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`Petitioner requests thirty (30) minutes per side for oral argument. Paper 72,
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`1. Patent Owner does not request a specific time period. See generally Paper 73.
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`Petitioner’s request is granted. Each party will have thirty (30) minutes of total
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`time to present arguments. Petitioner bears the burden of proof and persuasion,
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`except for certain motions brought by Patent Owner. Accordingly, Petitioner will
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`proceed first to present its case. Thereafter, Patent Owner may respond to
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`Petitioner’s case. Thereafter, Petitioner may use any of its remaining time for
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`rebuttal.
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`At least five (5) business days prior to the supplemental oral hearing, each
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`party shall serve on the other party any demonstrative exhibit(s) it intends to use
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`during the supplemental oral hearing. See 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b). At least two (2)
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`business days prior to the supplemental oral hearing, the parties shall provide the
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`demonstrative exhibits to the Board by emailing them to Trials@uspto.gov. As the
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`demonstrative exhibits are not evidence, the parties shall not file any demonstrative
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`exhibits in this case, at least without prior authorization from the Board.
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`The parties should attempt to work out any objections to demonstratives
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`prior to involving the Board. Should either party disagree with the propriety of any
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`of the opposing party’s demonstratives, the party may send, contemporaneously
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`with its own slides two (2) business days prior to the supplemental oral hearing, an
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`email to Trials@uspto.gov including a paper limited to identifying the opposing
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`party’s slide(s) objected to. No further argument is permitted in that paper. The
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`Board will then take the objections under advisement, and if the content is
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`inappropriate, it will not be considered. Any objection to demonstrative exhibits
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`that is not timely presented will be considered waived.
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`The Board asks the parties to confine demonstrative exhibit objections to
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`those identifying egregious violations that are prejudicial to the administration of
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`justice. The parties are directed to St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Division, Inc. v.
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`The Board of Regents of the University of Michigan, Case IPR2013-00041 (PTAB
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`Jan. 27, 2014) (Paper 65), for guidance regarding the appropriate content of
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`demonstrative exhibits. In general, if the content on a slide cannot be readily
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`associated with an argument made, or evidence referenced, in a substantive paper,
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`it is inappropriate. Conversely, if the content on a slide can be readily associated
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`with an argument made, or evidence referenced, in a substantive paper, it is proper.
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`The best practice is to indicate on each slide where support may be found in a
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`substantive paper and/or an exhibit of record in this proceeding.
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`The parties are reminded that each presenter must identify clearly and
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`specifically each demonstrative exhibit (e.g., by slide or screen number) referenced
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`during the supplemental oral hearing to ensure the clarity and accuracy of the
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`reporter’s transcript. The parties also should note that at least one member of the
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`panel may be attending the supplemental oral hearing electronically from a remote
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`location, and that if a demonstrative is not filed or otherwise made fully available
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`or visible to all judges at the supplemental oral hearing, that demonstrative will not
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`be considered. If the parties have questions as to whether demonstrative exhibits
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`would be sufficiently visible and available to all of the judges, the parties are
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`invited to contact the Board at (571) 272-9797.
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`The parties also are reminded that, at the supplemental oral hearing, they
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`may only rely upon evidence that has been previously submitted in the proceeding,
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`and is properly of record at the time of the supplemental oral hearing, and may
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`only present arguments that have been previously made in the appropriate
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`submitted substantive papers, which, here, are generally limited to those filed after
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`April 30, 2018, and that are properly of record at the time of the supplemental oral
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`hearing. The parties may also refer to anything relevant to those papers in the
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`Decisions on Institution (Papers 9, 44).
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`The Board expects lead counsel for each party to be present in person at the
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`hearing. If a party anticipates that its lead counsel will not be attending the oral
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`argument, the parties should initiate a joint telephone conference with the Board no
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`later than two business days prior to the oral hearing to discuss the matter. Any
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`counsel of record, however, may present the party’s arguments.
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`Requests for audio-visual equipment are to be made at least five business
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`days in advance of the date of the hearing by sending the request to
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`Trials@uspto.gov. If the request is not received timely, the equipment may not be
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`available on the day of the hearing.
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`PETITIONER:
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`Joseph Kincart
`jkincart@rtlaw.com
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`Andres Arrubla
`aarrubla@coastalind.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`Ryan Fountain
`ryanfountain@aol.com
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`John O’Banion
`docketing@intellectual.com
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