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`Paper 7
`Entered: August 30, 2017
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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` OPUS KSD INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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` INCISIVE SURGICAL INC.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2017-01438
`Patent 8,821,517 B2
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`Before FRANCES L. IPPOLITO, JAMES A. WORTH, and MICHAEL L.
`WOODS, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`IPPOLITO, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Conduct of the Proceeding
`37 C.F.R. § 42.5
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`IPR2017-01438 (Patent 8,821,517 B2)
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`On August 29, 2017, pursuant to a request by Petitioner, the Board
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`held a conference call between Judges Ippolito, Worth, and Woods and
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`counsel for the parties. Petitioner presented two requests: (1) a request for
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`authorization to file a Reply to Patent Owner’s Preliminary Response; and
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`(2) a request for authorization to file a motion to deem facts admitted. This
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`proceeding is in a preliminary stage and no decision on institution has been
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`entered.
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`1. Request for Reply
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`On the call, Petitioner requested a Reply to address whether Patent
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`Owner’s statutory disclaimer of all claims in U.S. Patent No. 8,821,517 B2
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`(“the ’517 patent”) that have been challenged in the Petition should be
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`treated as a request for adverse judgment. Petitioner asserted that alleged
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`facts related to the prosecution of the ’517 patent and alleged copying of
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`claims by the Patent Owner have bearing on our decision on whether to
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`institute an inter partes review, and especially, whether adverse judgment
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`applies to our review of the Petition and Preliminary Response.
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`In response, Patent Owner disagreed with Petitioner’s position that
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`alleged facts regarding prosecution and copying provide a basis (e.g.,
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`equitable basis) for the Board to treat Patent Owner’s statutory disclaimer as
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`a request for adverse judgment. Nonetheless, Patent Owner does not oppose
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`Petitioner’s request provided that Patent Owner may file a Sur-reply.
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`We appreciate that the parties have raised this issue early in the
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`preliminary proceeding and authorize both parties to provide additional
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`briefing to aid our review of the Petition, Preliminary Response, and Patent
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`Owner’s statutory disclaimer. We authorize Petitioner to file its Reply by
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`September 5, 2017. Petitioner’s brief is limited to five (5) pages. Patent
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`Owner may file a Sur-reply, also limited to five (5) pages, by September 12,
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`IPR2017-01438 (Patent 8,821,517 B2)
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`2017. Additionally, at this time, we do not authorize that any testimonial
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`evidence and/or declarations may accompany the briefs. Should either party
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`anticipate a need to file supporting testimonial evidence and/or declarations,
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`the parties are instructed to confer and contact the Board with available
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`dates/times for a conference call.
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`2. Motion to Deem Facts Admitted
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`Petitioner requested that certain material facts, including facts related
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`to alleged copying of claims and priority of the ’517 patent, be deemed
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`admitted facts on this record. Petitioner argued that the alleged facts sought
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`to be deemed admitted are relevant to arguments it will rely upon in the
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`Reply to Patent Owner’s Preliminary Response, which we have authorized
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`above.
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`Patent Owner reiterated its argument that there is no equitable basis
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`for treating a statutory disclaimer as adverse judgment against Patent Owner,
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`and, further sought clarity on the Board’s jurisdiction for authorizing and
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`deciding Petitioner’s motion in light of Patent Owner’s statutory disclaimer.
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`We understand Patent Owner’s position to be that the statutory disclaimer
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`deprives us of jurisdiction to allow and review briefing on whether certain
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`facts can be deemed admitted.
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`While we note Patent Owner’s objection for the record, we disagree
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`that the Board does not have jurisdiction to authorize the filing of
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`Petitioner’s motion. Petitioner asserts that the alleged facts at issue pertain
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`to our review of the Petition, Patent Owner’s Preliminary Response, Patent
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`Owner’s statutory disclaimer, and, ultimately, our decision whether to
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`institute trial. As such, we determine per, at least, 35 U.S.C. § 314(a), we
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`have jurisdiction to consider the parties’ briefing on alleged facts that
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`Petitioner represents are relevant to our review of the information presented
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`IPR2017-01438 (Patent 8,821,517 B2)
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`in the Petition and Preliminary Response. See also 37 C.F.R. § 42.2
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`(“Preliminary Proceeding begins with the filing of a petition for instituting a
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`trial and ends with a written decision as to whether a trial will be
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`instituted.”). Moreover, we note that the grant of authorization to file the
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`motion is not a decision to grant or deny the motion. Rather, having
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`considered the parties’ arguments on the call, we are persuaded that allowing
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`the parties to brief this issue in the record is in the interest of justice to
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`maintain a clear and complete record of this dispute between the parties as it
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`relates to the arguments presented in the Petition and Patent Owner’s
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`Preliminary Response.
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`Accordingly, we authorize Petitioner to file a motion to deem facts
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`admitted. Petitioner’s brief is limited to five (5) pages to be filed by
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`September 5, 2017. Patent Owner may file an opposition, also limited to
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`five (5) pages, by September 12, 2017. Petitioner may further file a reply to
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`Patent Owner’s opposition by September 19, 2017, limited to three (3)
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`pages. Additionally, at this time, we do not authorize that any testimonial
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`evidence and/or declarations may accompany the briefs. Should either party
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`anticipate a need to file supporting testimonial evidence and/or declarations,
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`the parties are instructed to confer and contact the Board with available
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`dates/times for a conference call.
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`Accordingly, it is
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`ORDERED that Petitioner is authorized to file, no later than
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`September 5, 2017, a Reply to Patent Owner’s Preliminary Response,
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`limited to five (5) pages;
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`FURTHER ORDERED that Patent Owner is authorized to file, no
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`later than September 12, 2017, a Sur-reply to Petitioner’s Reply, limited to
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`five (5) pages;
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`IPR2017-01438 (Patent 8,821,517 B2)
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`FURTHER ORDERED that Petitioner is authorized to file, no later
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`than September 5, 2017, a Motion to Deem Facts Admitted, limited to five
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`(5) pages;
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`FURTHER ORDERED that Patent Owner may file, no later than
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`September 12, 2017, an Opposition to Petitioner’s Motion, limited to five
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`(5) pages;
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`FURTHER ORDERED that Petitioner may file, no later than
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`September 19, 2017, a Reply to Patent Owner’s Opposition to Petitioner’s
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`Motion, limited to three (3) pages; and
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`FURTHER ORDERED that Petitioner and Patent Owner are not
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`authorized at this time to file supporting testimonial evidence and/or
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`declarations with the aforementioned briefing.
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`PETITIONER:
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`Vincent McGeary
`Michael Cukor
`MCGEARY CUKOR LLC
`vmcgeary@mcgearycukor.com
`mcukor@mcgearycukor.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`Brad Pedersen
`Eric Chadwick
`PATTERSON THUENTE PEDERSEN, P.A.
`pedersen@ptslaw.com
`chadwick@ptslaw.com
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