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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`TELESIGN CORPORATION
`Petitioner
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`TWILIO, INC.
`Patent Owner
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`Case IPR2017-01977
`Patent No. 8,755,376
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`PETITIONER’S OBJECTIONS TO PATENT OWNER’S EVIDENCE
`PURSUANT TO 37 C.F.R. § 42.64(b)(1)
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`Petitioner TeleSign objects under the Federal Rules of Evidence and 37 C.F.R.
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`§ 42.62 to the admissibility of Exhibits 2010, 2018-2020, 2022, 2023, 2025-27,
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`2029, 2040, 2046-54, 2055-70 (the “Challenged Exhibits”) cited in Twilio Inc.’s
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`Patent Owner’s Response (Paper 26). These objections are being timely filed within
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`five (5) business days of Twilio’s service of the exhibits to which these objections
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`are directed. TeleSign files and serves Twilio with these objections to provide notice
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`that TeleSign may move to exclude the Challenged Exhibits and Paper 26 under 37
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`C.F.R. § 42.64(c).
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`Ex. 2010
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`TeleSign objects to ¶¶ 130-158 of Exhibit 2010 – the secondary considerations
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`of non-obviousness section of Dr. Negus’ expert declaration – as improper expert
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`testimony under Federal Rules of Evidence (“FRE”) 702 and 703. Dr. Negus is not
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`qualified to offer the proffered expert testimony, the testimony is based on
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`insufficient facts or data, is not the product of reliable principles and methods, and
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`Dr. Negus has not reliably applied the appropriate principles and methods to the
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`facts. TeleSign further objects to ¶¶ 130-158 of Exhibit 2010 as improperly relying
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`on hearsay, namely the statements from Patent Owner’s co-founder John Wolthuis
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`set forth in ¶¶ 144-148 of Exhibit 2010 as well as Exhibits 2022-23, 2029, 2040,
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`2055-58, 2059-62, and 2069-70, in violation of FRE 801-802 that does not fall under
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`any exceptions, including those of FRE 803, 804, 805, or 805.
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`EX. 2018
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`TeleSign objects to Exhibit 2018 as inadmissible hearsay under FRE 801 and
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`802 that does not fall under any exceptions, including those of FRE 803, 804, 805,
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`or 807. TeleSign further objects to the Exhibit 2018 as irrelevant under FRE 402 and
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`403. In addition, even if relevant, the probative value of the evidence is outweighed
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`by its tendency to confuse the issues, cause undue delay, and waste the time of the
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`Board and Petitioner such that the evidence should be excluded under FRE 403.
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`3.
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`EX. 2019, EX. 2020, EX. 2022, EX. 2023, EX. 2029, EX. 2055, EX. 2056,
`EX. 2057, EX. 2058, EX. 2069, EX. 2070
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`TeleSign objects to Exhibits 2019-2020, 2022-2023, 2029, 2055-58, and
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`2069-2070 as inadmissible hearsay under FRE 801 and 802 that does not fall under
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`any exceptions, including those of FRE 803, 804, 805, or 807.
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`4.
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`EX. 2040, EX. 2059, EX. 2060, EX. 2061, EX. 2062
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`TeleSign objects to Exhibits 2040 and 2059-62 as inadmissible hearsay under
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`FRE 801 and 802 that does not fall under any exceptions, including those of FRE
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`803, 804, 805, or 807. TeleSign further objects to the admissibility of Exhibit 2040
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`and 2059-62 under FRE 402 as irrelevant at least because there is no evidence
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`tending to show that any company chose to become a Twilio customer because of
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`patented technology. In addition, even if relevant, the probative value of the
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`evidence is outweighed by its tendency to confuse the issues, cause undue delay, and
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`waste the time of the Board and Petitioner such that the evidence should be excluded
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`under FRE 403.
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`5.
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`EX. 2025, EX. 2026, EX. 2027
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`TeleSign objects to Exhibits 2025-2027 as inadmissible under FRE 602
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`because no foundation has been laid for these documents such that the Board will be
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`unable to understand these documents without representations by counsel or
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`speculation, either of which would be improper. TeleSign further objects to the
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`admissibility of Exhibits 2025-2027 under FRE 402 as irrelevant. In addition, even
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`if relevant, the probative value of the evidence is outweighed by its tendency to
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`confuse the issues, cause undue delay, and waste the time of the Board and Petitioner
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`such that the evidence should be excluded under FRE 403.
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`6.
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`EX. 2046
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`TeleSign objects to Exhibit 2046 as inadmissible hearsay under FRE 801 and
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`802 that does not fall under any exceptions, including those of FRE 803, 804, 805,
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`or 807 to the extent it is used to show the date printed on any Exhibit is its publication
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`date.
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`7.
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`EX. 2047, EX. 2048, EX. 2049, EX. 2050, EX. 2051, EX. 2052, EX 2053,
`EX. 2054, EX. 2063, EX. 2064, EX. 2065, EX. 2066, EX. 2067
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`TeleSign objects to Exhibits 2047-2054 and 2063-2067 under FRE 901 as
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`lacking a proper authentication. Patent Owner has failed to produce any evidence to
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`support a finding that these exhibits are what the Patent Owner claims they are.
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`TeleSign further objects to the admissibility of Exhibits 2047-2054 and 2063-2067
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`under FRE 602 because no foundation has been laid for these documents such that
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`the Board will be unable to understand these documents without representations by
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`Twilio’s counsel or speculation, either of which would be improper.
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`8.
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`EX. 2068
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`TeleSign further objects to the admissibility of Exhibit 2068 as irrelevant
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`under FRE 402 at least because this document contains only attorney argument that
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`is not probative of any issue in this IPR proceeding. In addition, even if relevant,
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`the probative value of the evidence is outweighed by its tendency to confuse the
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`issues, cause undue delay, and waste the time of the Board and Petitioner such that
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`the evidence should be excluded under FRE 403.
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`Dated: June 29, 2018
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`/s/ Christine Guastello
`Christine Guastello
`Reg. No. 58,716
`SHOOK, HARDY & BACON L.L.P.
`2555 Grand Blvd.
`Kansas City, MO 64108
`(816) 474-6550
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`Counsel for Petitioner
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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` The undersigned hereby certifies that on June 29, 2018, a copy of the
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`foregoing was served by electronic mail on the persons listed below at their
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`corresponding addresses, which includes all counsel of record.
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`Wayne Stacy
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`wayne.stacy@bakerbotts.com
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`Sarah Guske
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`sarah.guske@bakerbotts.com
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`Michelle Jacobson Eber
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`michelle.eber@bakerbotts.com
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`Dated: June 29, 2018
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`/s/ Christine A. Guastello
`Counsel for Petitioner
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