·1· · · · ·UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`·2· · · · ·BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`·5· ·CORPAK MEDSYSTEMS, INC. and HALYARD HEALTH, INC.,
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`·7· · · · · · ·Petitioners,
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`·8· · · · vs.
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`·9· ·KIRN MEDICAL DESIGN, L.L.C. and APPLIED MEDICAL
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`10· ·TECHNOLOGY, INC.,
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`14· · · · · Inter Partes Review No.: IPR2017-01990
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`16· · · · · · · · · ·TELEPHONE CONFERENCE
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`17· · · · ·BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`18· · · · · · · ·HONORABLE PATRICK R. SCANLON
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`19· · · · · · · · ·HONORABLE JAMES A. WORTH
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`20· · · · · · · · HONORABLE JAMES J. MAYBERRY
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`21· · · · · · · · · · · January 8, 2018
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`22· · · · · · · · · · · · 2:00 p.m.
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`24· ·Job No. 27313
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`25· ·Reported by:· Carrie LaMontagne, CSR
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`·1· ·APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL:
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`·2· ·For the Petitioners:
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`·3· · · · RICHARD M. McDERMOTT, Esq.
`· · · · · JITENDRA MALIK, PhD, Esq.
`·4· · · · ALSTON & BIRD
`· · · · · Bank of America Plaza
`·5· · · · 101 South Tryon Street, Suite 4000
`· · · · · Charlotte, North Carolina 28280-4000
`·6· · · · (704) 444-1000
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`·9· · · · GREGORY M. YORK, PhD., ESQ.
`· · · · · CHRISTOPHER T. META, ESQ.
`10· · · · PEARNE & GORDON LLP
`· · · · · Ohio Savings Plaza
`11· · · · 1801 East 9th Street, Suite 1200
`· · · · · Cleveland, OH 44114-3108
`12· · · · (216) 579-1700
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`·1· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Good afternoon.· This is
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`·2· ·Judge Scanlon convening the call in IPR2017-01990.
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`·3· ·Joining me on the line are Judges Worth and Mayberry.
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`·4· ·Let's start with the appearances.
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`·5· · · · Who is here for petitioner, please?
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`·6· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· Your Honors, this is
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`·7· ·Rick McDermott of Alston & Bird.· I'm lead counsel
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`·8· ·for the petitioners.· With me also is Jitendra Malik,
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`·9· ·back-up counsel for the petitioner, also with Alston
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`10· ·& Bird.
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`11· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· All right.· Thank you.
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`12· · · · Is anyone on for patent owner or AMT?
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`13· · · · · · ·MR. YORK:· Yes, your Honors.· This is
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`14· ·Gregory York, lead counsel for patent owners,
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`15· ·particularly exclusive licensee AMT.· And on the line
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`16· ·also is my colleague Chris Meta.
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`17· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Okay.· Anyone else?· Is
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`18· ·there a court reporter?
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`19· · · · · · ·THE REPORTER:· Yes.· Carrie LaMontagne here
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`20· ·taking the record.
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`21· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Which party arranged for
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`22· ·the court reporter?
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`23· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· The petitioners, your
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`24· ·Honor.· This is Rick McDermott.
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`25· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· All right.· If you can at
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`·1· ·your earliest convenience, when the transcript is
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`·2· ·ready, file that as an exhibit, that would be
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`·3· ·appreciated.
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`·4· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· Absolutely.
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`·5· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Okay.· So petitioner
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`·6· ·requested this call in order to discuss a possible
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`·7· ·lack of standing for AMT as exclusive licensee.· So
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`·8· ·we'll start with you, petitioner, if you want to tell
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`·9· ·us what your thinking is on this.
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`10· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· Sure.· This is
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`11· ·Rick McDermott again.· So an issue has come up with
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`12· ·respect to respondent AMT's potential lack of
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`13· ·standing to respond to the petition in this case on
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`14· ·its own.· The patent owner with respect to the 715 is
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`15· ·Kirn Medical Design, LLC.· That's is K-I-R-N.· AMT is
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`16· ·an exclusive licensee.
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`17· · · · The petitioners have examined and reviewed the
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`18· ·license agreement between Kirn Medical and AMT and do
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`19· ·not believe that that license agreement provides
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`20· ·sufficient rights in the patent to AMT for AMT to
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`21· ·represent this patent on its own in this proceeding.
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`22· · · · There is a corresponding litigation in the
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`23· ·northern district of Ohio involving the same patent,
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`24· ·the 715 patent.· In that case, rather than dispute
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`25· ·the issue of standings, AMT has agreed to add Kirn
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`·1· ·Medical Design, LLC as a party plaintiff for purposes
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`·2· ·of asserting the 715 patent.
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`·3· · · · In this case Kirn Medical Design, LLC has been
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`·4· ·identified as a real party in this interest, although
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`·5· ·only AMT filed the preliminary response.· The
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`·6· ·preliminary response is filed only on behalf of AMT.
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`·7· · · · Also, there is in this case a document that was
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`·8· ·submitted by AMT with the mandatory disclosures.· It
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`·9· ·is a consent document consenting to AMT's defense of
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`10· ·the 715 patent by Kirn Medical, but there is no POA
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`11· ·submitted by Kirn Medical.· And given the nature of
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`12· ·the license agreement, we're not certain that AMT
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`13· ·might need more than just a consent document in order
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`14· ·to represent the patent on its own and that Kirn may
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`15· ·be required to participate as a patent owner.
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`16· · · · The petitioner is agreeable to AMT submitting a
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`17· ·revised POA and potentially an amended preliminary
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`18· ·response identifying Kirn Medical.· We're just not
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`19· ·certain, given the certification, whether it was
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`20· ·permissible at this point or required at this point.
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`21· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· I guess, can you -- so the
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`22· ·paper referred to -- I think it's paper five -- the
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`23· ·authorization given by Kirn Medical, you said but
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`24· ·there was no power of attorney.
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`25· · · · Is it your position that that authorization by
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`·1· ·itself is not sufficient?
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`·2· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· I'm not certain that the
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`·3· ·authorization is sufficient in order for Kirn Medical
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`·4· ·to be appearing on behalf of the patent, the 715
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`·5· ·patent, and I'm not sure that that document is
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`·6· ·sufficient to grant what we would normally in a
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`·7· ·litigation context refer to as standing for AMT to be
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`·8· ·able to represent the patent on its own.
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`·9· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Okay.· And as far as the
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`10· ·exclusive license you reference, license agreement,
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`11· ·that is not of record, I don't believe; is that
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`12· ·correct?
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`13· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· That is correct.· So the
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`14· ·license agreement was produced in the corresponding
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`15· ·litigation.· So we have had the opportunity to review
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`16· ·it in this context.· It is not an exhibit in this
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`17· ·proceeding.
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`18· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Can you speak to why you
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`19· ·think that doesn't provide the authority for AMT to
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`20· ·act on behalf of the patent owner.
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`21· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· Sure.· Several provisions
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`22· ·that we think fall short of what would normally be
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`23· ·required of what would typically be referred to as
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`24· ·exclusive license which would be required to provide
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`25· ·sufficient rights to convey standing.· One of them is
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`·1· ·that the license itself, the exclusivity is
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`·2· ·contingent upon certain sales requirements.
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`·3· · · · There also is a limitation with respect to
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`·4· ·sublicensing.· There are also some limitations
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`·5· ·relating to the ability to file suit.· It is not an
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`·6· ·exclusive grant to the licensee to be able to file
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`·7· ·suit on behalf of the patent.· That is contingent as
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`·8· ·well.· And there are several other provisions, but
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`·9· ·those are the primary ones that we believe limit the
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`10· ·license in such a way that it would not rise to the
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`11· ·level of granting standing.
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`12· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Okay.· All right.· Thank
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`13· ·you.· Do you have anything else to add at this point?
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`14· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· That is it, your Honors.
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`15· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Okay.· Mr. York, how would
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`16· ·you respond to that?
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`17· · · · · · ·MR. YORK:· So this is Greg York for AMT.
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`18· ·Our position is that the exclusive license clearly
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`19· ·grants AMT the -- it makes AMT an exclusive licensee.
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`20· ·I think the issue of whether AMT has all substantial
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`21· ·rights in the patent so that AMT would have standing
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`22· ·on its own without needing to join Kirn Medical is an
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`23· ·issue that would be reasonable to discuss, but we
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`24· ·would argue that there's no question that the license
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`25· ·has made AMT an exclusive licensee; and on that
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`·1· ·basis, AMT has standing to sue in litigation, and, we
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`·2· ·would argue, has standing to act on behalf of the
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`·3· ·patent owner in the IPR proceeding.
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`·4· · · · I can cite to case law that supports that
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`·5· ·proposition, which is the WiAV Solutions v. Motorola
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`·6· ·case, 631 F.3d 1257 (Fed. Cir. 2010).· The issue is
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`·7· ·that the agreement -- the agreement between Kirn
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`·8· ·Medical and AMT provides AMT with an exclusionary
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`·9· ·right in the patent that it if violated would cause
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`10· ·AMT to suffer legal injury.
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`11· · · · Based on the case law, that's sufficient for AMT
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`12· ·to have standing.· Whether AMT has all substantial
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`13· ·rights in the patent is a different issue and that
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`14· ·would go to whether or not Kirn Medical needs to be
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`15· ·joined.
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`16· · · · AMT's position is that Kirn Medical will
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`17· ·voluntarily join if the board feels that it's
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`18· ·necessary for Kirn Medical to do so.· We will note
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`19· ·though that, as petitioners' representative has
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`20· ·pointed out, Kirn Medical is already indicated as a
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`21· ·real party in interest along with AMT.· And it would
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`22· ·be our understanding and position that the consent
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`23· ·agreement that we filed, which indicates that Kirn
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`24· ·Medical consents to AMT defending the 715 patent in
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`25· ·this IPR proceeding by counsel appointed by AMT, that
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`·1· ·those things together should be sufficient for AMT to
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`·2· ·be able to proceed.
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`·3· · · · We would think they would be sufficient for AMT
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`·4· ·to be able to proceed without needing to add Kirn
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`·5· ·Medical, but Kirn Medical will voluntarily join to
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`·6· ·the extent that the board thinks it's necessary.
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`·7· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· All right.· Any response
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`·8· ·Mr. McDermott?
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`·9· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· Just a limited response,
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`10· ·your Honors.· Mr. York seems to be drawing a
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`11· ·distinction between AMT as an exclusive licensee and
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`12· ·AMT as having all substantial rights in the patent in
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`13· ·suit as required for standing in his description.
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`14· · · · We believe that it is not sufficient to just be
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`15· ·an exclusive licensee in name, that to have standing
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`16· ·you must have received that transfer of all
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`17· ·substantial rights in the patent suit, which we don't
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`18· ·believe has occurred.
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`19· · · · As I indicated earlier, we do believe that Kirn
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`20· ·Medical ought to be a respondent in this case, and we
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`21· ·are agreeable to AMT submitting an amended response
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`22· ·identifying Kirn Medical as a respondent and also a
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`23· ·POA on behalf Kirn Medical, if that is permissible.
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`24· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Okay.· Anything else?
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`25· ·Mr. York, do you have anything to add at this point?
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`·1· · · · · · ·MR. YORK:· I think to the extent that
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`·2· ·there's -- there might be a concern about AMT being
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`·3· ·an exclusive licensee, AMT would be willing to submit
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`·4· ·the exclusive license agreement, and if the board has
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`·5· ·a concern about that, we could point to the terms of
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`·6· ·agreement that provide the exclusive right, the
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`·7· ·relevant exclusive rights to AMT.· Other than that, I
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`·8· ·don't have anything to add.
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`·9· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· As far as -- you mentioned
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`10· ·earlier Kirn would be willing to join, if necessary.
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`11· ·It seems like -- would you view that as filing an
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`12· ·amended response and power of attorney as
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`13· ·Mr. McDermott has suggested?
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`14· · · · · · ·MR. YORK:· What I would -- what I would
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`15· ·expect should be done would be that we would file a
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`16· ·power attorney from Kirn Medical -- granting power of
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`17· ·attorney from Kirn Medical to our firm.· I don't
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`18· ·think that there would be a need to file an amended
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`19· ·patent owner's preliminary response in part because
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`20· ·Kirn Medical Design is listed as the patent owner in
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`21· ·the heading and there isn't anything -- it doesn't
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`22· ·seem to me that there would be anything substantive
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`23· ·that would need to be added to our patent owner's
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`24· ·preliminary response.
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`25· · · · I would say I don't think -- I'm not aware of a
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`·1· ·precedent for this specific situation, and we would
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`·2· ·be amenable to doing what the board thinks is
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`·3· ·necessary.
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`·4· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· All right.· Okay.· One more
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`·5· ·quick question for Mr. McDermott.
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`·6· · · · To the point of the preliminary response, Kirn
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`·7· ·Medical is listed in the heading already.· I guess,
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`·8· ·what did you envision by having a revised preliminary
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`·9· ·response?
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`10· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· I think our only thought
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`11· ·with respect to that -- and I would echo what
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`12· ·Mr. York said in terms of doing whatever the board
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`13· ·seems to be appropriate.
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`14· · · · Our only thought with respect to that was that
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`15· ·the -- when we say amended response, what we really
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`16· ·mean is that that response would be submitted on
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`17· ·behalf of both Kirn Medical as the patent owner and
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`18· ·AMT as the exclusive licensee as opposed to just
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`19· ·being submitted by AMT as the licensee.· That was our
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`20· ·only thought with respect to it being amended.
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`21· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· All right.· I'm going to
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`22· ·take a brief pause here and confer with the panel.
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`23· ·If the parties don't mind holding for a few moments,
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`24· ·we'll be back shortly.
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`25· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· Thank you.
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`·1· · · · · · ·MR. YORK:· Thank you.
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`·2· · · · · · · · (Pause in the proceedings.)
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`·3· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Okay.· Thank you for
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`·4· ·waiting.· We're back.· And just -- Mr. McDermott, are
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`·5· ·you still on the line?
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`·6· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· Yes, I am.
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`·7· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· And Mr. York?
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`·8· · · · · · ·MR. YORK:· Yes.
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`·9· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· All right.· Thank you.· The
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`10· ·panel conferred and I guess we are in agreement,
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`11· ·there doesn't seem to be a lot of precedent for this
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`12· ·type of issue.
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`13· · · · I sense that there was some agreement with the
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`14· ·parties that power of attorney by Kirn Medical would
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`15· ·go a long way to resolving the issue.· So what we're
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`16· ·going to do is have patent owner file that power of
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`17· ·attorney and then in the meantime, we don't feel
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`18· ·there's a need to further amend the preliminary
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`19· ·response.
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`20· · · · I think at that point we will treat the
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`21· ·proceeding as being in the name of patent owner Kirn
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`22· ·as well as AMT.· And I think that should resolve the
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`23· ·issues we're dealing with.
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`24· · · · Does either party have anything to add at this
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`25· ·time?
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`·1· · · · · · ·MR. YORK:· Your Honor, this is Greg York
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`·2· ·for AMT.· I will ask as a technical matter, I have
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`·3· ·determined that we provided the name of Kirn Medical
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`·4· ·Design, LLC with a misspelling relative to the legal
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`·5· ·name of the company, that is the LLC.· The way that
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`·6· ·we provided it and as it appears on the assignment
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`·7· ·has periods with the -- after the L, the L, and the
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`·8· ·C.· The legal name doesn't have periods in LLC.
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`·9· · · · My preference -- my suggestion would be that
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`10· ·when we file the POA, we file it using the correct
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`11· ·legal name.· So Kirn Medical Design, comma, LLC,
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`12· ·without periods.· I mention it to ask whether that
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`13· ·will be permissible so that it doesn't come as a
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`14· ·surprise.
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`15· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Yes, that would be fine.
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`16· · · · · · ·MR. YORK:· Okay.· I would propose not -- if
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`17· ·it's important to petitioners or the board, we could
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`18· ·also correct the spelling regarding real parties in
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`19· ·interest, but to me it doesn't seem like that should
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`20· ·be necessary.· I would ask if petitioners or you
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`21· ·would think otherwise.
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`22· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· How do you feel about that,
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`23· ·Mr. McDermott?
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`24· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· We don't feel -- this is
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`25· ·Rick McDermott.· We don't feel that that is necessary
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`·1· ·to make any adjustment with that.
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`·2· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· That sounds fine.
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`·3· · · · · · ·MR. YORK:· Thank you.
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`·4· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Okay.· In that case,
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`·5· ·appreciate your name and we're adjourned.
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`·6· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· Your Honors.
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`·7· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Yes.
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`·8· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· I'm, sorry, this is
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`·9· ·Rick McDermott.· We have one related issue that has
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`10· ·come up since this call was scheduled, and if you
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`11· ·don't mind I'd like to raise it.· We've raised it
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`12· ·with the respondents this morning, but I'd to get
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`13· ·your Honors' guidance on it, if that's okay.
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`14· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· All right.
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`15· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· As of December 31st one of
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`16· ·the corporate entities of petitioners, Corpak
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`17· ·Medsystems, Inc., no longer exists as a corporate
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`18· ·entity.· It has a been folded into other corporate
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`19· ·entities.· So, of course, we are under the 21-day
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`20· ·period to update our mandatory notices and we're in
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`21· ·the process of doing that.
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`22· · · · We were wondering whether your Honors have any
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`23· ·preference with respect to how, if at all, we need to
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`24· ·deal with that from the petitions' standpoint,
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`25· ·whether an amended petition removing that name needs
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`·1· ·to be submitted or if it's sufficient to merely
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`·2· ·update the real parties in interest related to this
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`·3· ·proceeding?
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`·4· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Yeah, I think updating the
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`·5· ·mandatory notice will be sufficient and then going
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`·6· ·forward, we'll note that -- I'm sorry, the name of
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`·7· ·the entity was?
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`·8· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· Corpak.
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`·9· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Corpak will note that they
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`10· ·are no longer part of the proceeding.
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`11· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· All right.· We will do
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`12· ·that.· I appreciate your willingness to let me
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`13· ·address that issue.
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`14· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· Certainly.· Okay.· Anything
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`15· ·else?
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`16· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· No, your Honors.
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`17· · · · · · ·JUDGE SCANLON:· All right.· Well, thank you
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`18· ·and we're adjourned.
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`19· · · · · · ·MR. McDERMOTT:· Thank you.
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`20· · · · · · ·MR. YORK:· Thank you.
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`21· · · · · (Teleconference concluded at 2:24 p.m.)
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`·1· · · · · · · · · REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE
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`·3· · · · I, Carrie LaMontagne, Certified Shorthand
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`·4· ·Reporter within and for the States of California and
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`·5· ·Oklahoma, License Nos. 13393 and 1976, respectively,
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`·6· ·do hereby certify that the foregoing proceeding was
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`·7· ·reported by me on Monday January 8, 2018, and was
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`·8· ·thereafter transcribed with computer-aided
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`·9· ·transcription; that the foregoing is a full,
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`10· ·complete, and true record of said proceedings.
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`11· · · · I further certify that I am not of counsel or
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`12· ·attorney for either or any of the parties in the
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`13· ·foregoing proceedings and caption named or in any way
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`14· ·interested in the outcome of the cause in said
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`15· ·caption.
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`16· · · · · · ·IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my
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`17· ·hand and official seal this 9th day of January, 2018.
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`19· ·____________________________
`· · ·CARRIE LAMONTAGNE, CSR
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`1257 8:6
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`2010 8:6
`21-day 14:19
`2:24 15:21
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`31st 14:15
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`631 8:6
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`1
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`2
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`3
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`6
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`7
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`715 4:14,24 5:2,10 6:4 8:24
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`A
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`ability 7:5
`able 6:8 7:6 9:2,4
`about 10:2,5 13:22
`Absolutely 4:4
`act 6:20 8:2
`add 4:25 7:13 9:4,25 10:8 12:24
`added 10:23
`address 15:13
`adjourned 14:5 15:18
`adjustment 14:1
`after 13:7
`afternoon 3:1
`again 4:11
`agreeable 5:16 9:21
`agreed 4:25
`agreement 4:18,19 5:12 6:10,14
` 8:7,23 10:4,6 12:10,13
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`along 8:21
`already 8:20 11:7
`also 3:8,9,16 5:7 7:3,4 9:22
` 13:18
`Alston 3:7,9
`although 5:4
`amenable 11:2
`amend 12:18
`amended 5:17 9:21 10:12,18
` 11:15,20 14:25
`AMT 3:12,15 4:7,15,18,20,25
` 5:5,6,8,12,16 6:7,19 7:17,19,20,
` 21,25 8:1,8,10,11,12,21,24,25
` 9:1,3,11,12,21 10:2,3,7 11:18,19
` 12:22 13:2
`AMT's 4:12 5:9 8:16
`any 9:7 14:1,22
`anyone 3:12,17
`anything 7:13 9:24,25 10:8,21,
` 22 12:24 15:14
`appearances 3:4
`appearing 6:4
`appears 13:6
`appointed 8:25
`appreciate 14:5 15:12
`appreciated 4:3
`appropriate 11:13
`are 3:3 7:4,8,9 9:21 12:4,10
` 14:19 15:10
`argue 7:24 8:2
`arranged 3:21
`ask 13:2,12,20
`asserting 5:2
`assignment 13:6
`attorney 5:24 10:12,16,17
` 12:14,17
`authority 6:19
`authorization 5:23,25 6:3
`aware 10:25
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`B
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`back 11:24 12:4
`back-up 3:9
`Based 8:11
`basis 8:1
`because 10:19
`been 5:3 14:18
`behalf 5:6 6:4,20 7:7 8:2 9:23
` 11:17
`being 10:2 11:19,20 12:21
`believe 4:19 6:11 7:9 9:14,18,19
`between 4:18 8:7 9:11
`Bird 3:7,10
`board 8:17 9:6 10:4 11:2,12
` 13:17
`both 11:17
`brief 11:22
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`C
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`call 3:2 4:6 14:10
`can 3:25 5:21 6:18 8:4
`Carrie 3:19
`case 4:13,24 5:3,7 8:4,6,11 9:20
` 14:4
`cause 8:9
`certain 5:12,19 6:2 7:2
`Certainly 15:14
`certification 5:19
`Chris 3:16
`Cir 8:6
`cite 8:4
`clearly 7:18
`colleague 3:16
`come 4:11 13:13 14:10
`comma 13:11
`company 13:5
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`concern 10:2,5
`concluded 15:21
`confer 11:22
`conferred 12:10
`consent 5:9,13 8:22
`consenting 5:9
`consents 8:24
`context 6:7,16
`contingent 7:2,7
`convenience 4:1
`convening 3:2
`convey 6:25
`Corpak 14:16 15:8,9
`corporate 14:16,17,18
`correct 6:12,13 13:10,18
`corresponding 4:22 6:14
`could 10:5 13:17
`counsel 3:7,9,14 8:25
`course 14:19
`court 3:18,22
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`D
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`deal 14:24
`dealing 12:23
`December 14:15
`defending 8:24
`defense 5:9
`description 9:13
`Design 4:15 5:1,3 10:20 13:4,11
`determined 13:3
`did 11:8
`different 8:13
`disclosures 5:8
`discuss 4:6 7:23
`dispute 4:24
`distinction 9:11
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`district 4:23
`document 5:7,9,13 6:5
`drawing 9:10
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`folded 14:18
`forward 15:6
`further 12:18
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`E
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`G
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`earlier 9:19 10:10
`earliest 4:1
`echo 11:11
`either 12:24
`else 3:17 7:13 9:24 15:15
`entities 14:16,19
`entity 14:18 15:7
`envision 11:8
`examined 4:17
`exclusionary 8:8
`exclusive 3:15 4:7,16 6:10,24
` 7:6,18,19,25 9:11,15 10:3,4,6,7
` 11:18
`exclusivity 7:1
`exhibit 4:2 6:16
`exists 14:17
`expect 10:15
`extent 9:6 10:1
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`F
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`F.3d 8:6
`fall 6:22
`fed 8:6
`feel 12:17 13:22,24,25
`feels 8:17
`file 4:2 7:5,6 10:15,18 12:16
` 13:10
`filed 5:5,6 8:23
`filing 10:11
`fine 13:15 14:2
`firm 10:17
`five 5:22
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`given 5:11,19,23
`Good 3:1
`grant 6:6 7:6
`granting 7:11 10:16
`grants 7:19
`Greg 7:17 13:1
`Gregory 3:14
`guess 5:21 11:7 12:10
`guidance 14:13
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`H
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`heading 10:21 11:7
`here 3:5,19 11:22
`his 9:13
`holding 11:23
`Honor 3:24 13:1
`Honors 3:6,13 7:14 9:10 14:6,22
` 15:16
`Honors' 14:13
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`I
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`identified 5:4
`identifying 5:18 9:22
`important 13:17
`indicated 8:20 9:19
`indicates 8:23
`injury 8:10
`interest 5:4 8:21 13:19 15:2
`involving 4:23
`IPR 8:3,25
`IPR2017-01990 3:2
`issue 4:11,25 7:20,23 8:6,13
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` 12:12,15 14:9 15:13
`issues 12:23
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`J
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`Jitendra 3:8
`join 7:22 8:17 9:5 10:10
`joined 8:15
`Joining 3:3
`Judge 3:1,2,11,17,21,25 4:5
` 5:21 6:9,18 7:12,15 9:7,24 10:9
` 11:4,21 12:3,7,9 13:15,22 14:2,4,
` 7,14 15:4,9,14,17
`Judges 3:3
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`K
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`K-I-R-N 4:15
`Kirn 4:15,18,25 5:3,10,11,14,18,
` 23 6:3 7:22 8:7,14,16,18,20,23
` 9:4,5,19,22,23 10:10,16,17,20
` 11:6,17 12:14,21 13:3,11
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`L
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`lack 4:7,12
`Lamontagne 3:19
`law 8:4,11
`lead 3:7,14
`legal 8:10 13:4,8,11
`level 7:11
`license 4:18,19 5:12 6:10,14,24
` 7:1,10,18,24 10:4
`licensee 3:15 4:7,16 7:6,19,25
` 9:11,15 10:3 11:18,19
`like 10:11 13:19 14:11
`limit 7:9
`limitation 7:3
`limitations 7:4
`limited 9:9
`line 3:3,15 12:5
`listed 10:20 11:7
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`litigation 4:22 6:7,15 8:1
`LLC 4:15 5:1,3 13:4,5,8,11
`long 12:15
`longer 14:17 15:10
`lot 12:11
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`M
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`made 7:25
`make 14:1
`makes 7:19
`Malik 3:8
`mandatory 5:8 14:20 15:5
`matter 13:2
`Mayberry 3:3
`Mcdermott 3:6,7,23,24 4:4,10,
` 11 6:2,13,21 7:14 9:8,9 10:13
` 11:5,10,25 12:4,6 13:23,24,25
` 14:6,8,9,15 15:8,11,16,19
`me 3:3,8 10:22 13:19 15:12
`mean 11:16
`meantime 12:17
`Medical 4:15,18 5:1,3,10,11,18,
` 23 6:3 7:22 8:8,14,16,18,20,24
` 9:5,20,22,23 10:16,17,20 11:7,17
` 12:14 13:3,11
`Medsystems 14:17
`mention 13:12
`mentioned 10:9
`merely 15:1
`Meta 3:16
`might 5:13 10:2
`mind 11:23 14:11
`misspelling 13:4
`moments 11:23
`more 5:13 11:4
`morning 14:12
`Motorola 8:5
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`N
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`name 9:15 12:21 13:3,5,8,11
` 14:5,25 15:6
`nature 5:11
`necessary 8:18 9:6 10:10 11:3
` 13:20,25
`need 5:13 10:18,23 12:18 14:23
`needing 7:22 9:4
`needs 8:14 14:25
`normally 6:6,22
`northern 4:23
`note 8:18 15:6,9
`notice 15:5
`notices 14:20
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`O
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`occurred 9:18
`Ohio 4:23
`one 6:25 11:4 14:9,15
`ones 7:9
`only 5:5,6 11:10,14,20
`opportunity 6:15
`opposed 11:18
`order 4:6 5:13 6:3
`other 7:8 10:7 14:18
`otherwise 13:21
`ought 9:20
`our 7:18 8:22 10:17,23 11:10,14,
` 19 14:20
`out 8:20
`own 4:14,21 5:14 6:8 7:22
`owner 3:12 4:14 5:15 6:20 8:3
` 10:20 11:17 12:16,21
`owner's 10:19,23
`owners 3:14
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`P
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`p.m. 15:21
`panel 11:22 12:10
`paper 5:22
`part 10:19 15:10
`participate 5:15
`particularly 3:15
`parties 11:23 12:14 13:18 15:2
`party 3:21 5:1,4 8:21 12:24
`patent 3:12,14 4:14,20,21,23,24
` 5:2,10,14,15 6:4,5,8,20 7:7,21
` 8:3,9,13,24 9:12,17 10:19,20,23
` 11:17 12:16,21
`pause 11:22 12:2
`period 14:20
`periods 13:7,8,12
`permissible 5:20 9:23 13:13
`petition 4:13 14:25
`petitioner 3:5,9 4:5,8 5:16
`petitioners 3:8,23 4:17 13:17,20
` 14:16
`petitioners' 8:19
`petitions' 14:24
`plaintiff 5:1
`please 3:5
`POA 5:10,17 9:23 13:10
`point 5:20 7:13 9:25 10:5 11:6
` 12:20
`pointed 8:20
`position 5:25 7:18 8:16,22
`possible 4:6
`potential 4:12
`potentially 5:17
`power 5:24 10:12,16 12:14,16
`precedent 11:1 12:11
`preference 13:9 14:23
`preliminary 5:5,6,17 10:19,24
` 11:6,8 12:18
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`primary 7:9
`proceed 9:2,4
`proceeding 4:21 6:17 8:3,25
` 12:21 15:3,10
`proceedings 12:2
`process 14:21
`produced 6:14
`propose 13:16
`proposition 8:5
`provide 6:19,24 10:6
`provided 13:3,6
`provides 4:19 8:8
`provisions 6:21 7:8
`purposes 5:1
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`Q
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`question 7:24 11:5
`quick 11:5
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`R
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`raise 14:11
`raised 14:11
`ready 4:2
`real 5:4 8:21 13:18 15:2
`really 11:15
`reasonable 7:23
`received 9:16
`record 3:20 6:11
`refer 6:7
`reference 6:10
`referred 5:22 6:23
`regarding 13:18
`related 14:9 15:2
`relating 7:5
`relative 13:4
`relevant 10:7
`removing 14:25
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`reporter 3:18,19,22
`represent 4:21 5:14 6:8
`representative 8:19
`requested 4:6
`required 5:15,20 6:23,24 9:13
`requirements 7:2
`resolve 12:22
`resolving 12:15
`respect 4:12,14 7:3 11:11,14,20
` 14:23
`respond 4:13 7:16
`respondent 4:12 9:20,22
`respondents 14:12
`response 5:5,6,18 9:7,9,21
` 10:12,19,24 11:6,9,15,16 12:19
`review 6:15
`reviewed 4:17
`revised 5:17 11:8
`Rick 3:7,24 4:11 13:25 14:9
`right 3:11,25 7:12 8:9 9:7 10:6
` 11:4,21 12:9 14:14 15:11,17
`rights 4:20 6:25 7:21 8:13 9:12,
` 17 10:7
`rise 7:10
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`S
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`said 5:23 11:12
`sales 7:2
`same 4:23
`say 10:25 11:15
`Scanlon 3:1,2,11,17,21,25 4:5
` 5:21 6:9,18 7:12,15 9:7,24 10:9
` 11:4,21 12:3,7,9 13:15,22 14:2,4,
` 7,14 15:4,9,14,17
`scheduled 14:10
`seem 10:22 12:11 13:19
`seems 9:10 10:11 11:13
`sense 12:13
`several 6:21 7:8
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`short 6:22
`shortly 11:24
`should 9:1 10:15 12:22 13:19
`since 14:10
`situation 11:1
`Solutions 8:5
`some 7:4 12:13
`sorry 14:8 15:6
`sounds 14:2
`speak 6:18
`specific 11:1
`spelling 13:18
`standing 4:7,13 6:7,25 7:11,21
` 8:1,2,12 9:13,15
`standings 4:25
`standpoint 14:24
`start 3:4 4:8
`still 12:5
`sublicensing 7:4
`submit 10:3
`submitted 5:8,11 11:16,19 15:1
`submitting 5:16 9:21
`substantial 7:20 8:12 9:12,17
`substantive 10:22
`such 7:10
`sue 8:1
`suffer 8:10
`sufficient 4:20 6:1,3,6,25 8:11
` 9:1,3,14 15:1,5
`suggested 10:13
`suggestion 13:9
`suit 7:5,7 9:13,17
`supports 8:4
`sure 4:10 6:5,21
`surprise 13:14
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`T
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`W
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`waiting 12:4
`well 7:8 12:22 15:17
`Wiav 8:5
`willing 10:3,10
`willingness 15:12
`wondering 14:22
`Worth 3:3
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`Y
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`York 3:13,14 7:15,17 9:10,25
` 10:1,14 11:12 12:1,7,8 13:1,16
` 14:3 15:20
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`take 11:22
`taking 3:20
`technical 13:2
`teleconference 15:21
`tell 4:8
`terms 10:5 11:12
`things 9:1
`think 5:22 6:19,22 7:20 9:3 10:1,
` 18,25 11:10 12:20,22 13:21 15:4
`thinking 4:9
`thinks 9:6 11:2
`thought 11:10,14,20
`time 12:25
`together 9:1
`transcript 4:1
`transfer 9:16
`treat 12:20
`type 12:12
`typically 6:23
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`U
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`under 14:19
`understanding 8:22
`up 4:11 14:10
`update 14:20 15:2
`updating 15:4
`upon 7:2
`using 13:10
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`V
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`view 10:11
`violated 8:9
`voluntarily 8:17 9:5
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