`The Induction Of Remission In Patients With Active, Mild To Moderate
`Ulcerative Colitis (Transcript)
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`Jan. 15, 2013 12:20 PM ET
`by: SA Transcripts
`Santarus, Inc. (NASDAQ:SNTS)
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`Santarus Receives FDA Approval of UCERIS (Budesonide) for the Induction of Remission
`in Patients with Active, Mild to Moderate Ulcerative Colitis
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`January 15, 2013 09:00 am ET
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`Executives
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`Martha Hough VP Finance & Investor Relations
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`Gerry Proehl Director, President and Chief Executive Officer
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`Debbie Crawford Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer and Secretary
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`Bill Denby Senior Vice President, Commercial Operations
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`Wendell Wierenga Executive Vice President, Research and Development
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`Analysts
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`Scott Henry Roth Capital
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`David Amsellem Piper Jaffray
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`Daniel Chang Stifel
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`Brian Lian SunTrust
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`Operator
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`Good morning. My name is Melissa, and I will be your conference operator today. At this
`time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Santarus Business Update Conference Call.
`All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers'
`remarks, there will be a questionandanswer session. (Operator Instructions).
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`Thank you. Ms. Martha Hough. You may begin your conference.
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`Martha Hough
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`Thank you, Melissa. Good morning, and welcome to today's call. This is Martha Hough,
`Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations.
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`Joining me on the call today are Gerry Proehl, President and Chief Executive Officer;
`Debra Crawford, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Bill Denby, Senior Vice
`President of Commercial Operations. Dr. Wendell Wierenga, Executive Vice President of
`Research and Development will also be available during the questionandanswer
`session.
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`Yesterday after market closed, Santarus issued a press release announcing FDA approval
`of UCERIS, extended release tablets. This press release is available on our website at
`www.santarus.com. We will also make a replay of today's call available for the next two
`weeks on the Investor Relations section of our website.
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`Please keep in mind that risks and uncertainties involved in the company's business may
`affect the matters referred to in forwardlooking statements made by management during
`today's call. As a result, the company's performance may differ from those expressed in or
`indicated by such forwardlooking statements, which are qualified in their entirety by the
`cautionary statements contained in the press release and the company's Securities and
`Exchange Commission filings.
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`The content of this conference call contains timesensitive information that is accurate
`only as of the date of this live broadcast on January 15, 2013. Santarus undertakes no
`obligation to revise or update any forwardlooking statements to reflect events or
`circumstances after the date of this conference call.
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`In this call, when talking about our company's financial outlook, we will also discuss
`adjusted EBITDA, a nonGAAP financial measure. You can find the reconciliation of
`adjusted EBITDA to GAAP net income in our press release issued yesterday.
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`I'll now turn the call over to Gerry Proehl.
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`Gerry Proehl
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`Thank you, Martha, and welcome to this morning's call. Yesterday FDA approval of
`UCERIS extended release tablets of the induction of remission of active, mild to moderate
`ulcerative colitis is exciting news and gives us strong momentum at the start of the New
`Year. We are very pleased to be preparing to launch UCERIS, an important new treatment
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`for the active stage of mild to moderate ulcerative colitis to patients and
`gastroenterologists. We believe 2013 is shaping up to be another very successful year for
`Santarus.
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`UCERIS contains budesonide a locally acting steroid in an oral utilizing MMX colonic
`delivery technology, designed to release budesonide throughout the calling. In clinical
`testing UCERIS achieved statistical significant results for the induction of remission of
`ulcerative colitis over eight weeks compared to placebo.
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`In two pivotal studies and our 12month extended use study, the frequency of treatment
`related adverse events for UCERIS was similar to placebo. We believe UCERIS is
`uniquely positioned to fill a gap in the treatment paradigm to patient suffering acute mild to
`moderate ulcerative colitis.
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`Our commercial group has been focused on preparing for the launch of UCERIS. Bill
`Denby will review our progress in expanding our sales organization and describe some of
`our upcoming promotional initiatives later in the call. We expect to complete the
`manufacturing activities related to labeling and final packaging over the next eight weeks
`and our planning for the commercial launch of UCERIS in March.
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`We believe, our strategic plan to prepare Santarus for significant future growth continues
`to show positive results. To that end, we expect to meet or exceed our full year guidance
`for 2012, and we are introducing what we believe is a strong 2013 financial outlook, which
`include substantial growth in revenues and profits over our current guidance for 2012.
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`I'll now turn the call over to Debbie Crawford to provide the details of our 2012 and 2013
`financial guidance. Deb?
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`Debbie Crawford
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`Thank you, Gerry, and thank you to everyone for joining our call. As Gerry said, for 2012,
`we expect to meet or exceed the guidance that we provided on our third quarter financial
`results call on November 7 .
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`As a reminder, our guidance includes total revenues of approximately $210 million. Net
`income of approximately $12 million to $14 million, which includes a total of $14 million in
`expense for successbased regulatory and clinical milestones and adjusted EBITDA of
`approximately $29 million to $32 million.
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`Today, we are pleased to introduce our financial outlook for full year 2013, which includes
`significant top line growth coupled with bottom line expansion. Our estimates are total
`revenues of approximately $320 million to $325 million, net income of approximately $50
`million to $54 million and adjusted EBITDA of approximately $73 million to $79 million.
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`Additional details on selected estimated expenses for 2013 are as follows. License fees
`will include a $5 million expense for a successbased milestone assuming FDA
`acceptance for review of the RUCONEST Biologics License Application. R&D expenses of
`approximately $34 million to $38 million, and SG&A expenses of approximately $131
`million to $134 million, which include an incremental estimated $38 million to $40 million to
`fund the sales force expansion of 85 sales reps and promotional and other costs related to
`the UCERIS launch and ZEGERID relaunch.
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`Bill Denby will now give a brief overview of launch activities for UCERIS and the relaunch
`of ZEGERID.
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`Bill Denby
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`Thanks, Deb. We have nearly completed our recruiting efforts for our planned sales force
`expansion to facilitate the UCERIS launch and expect to have a total of 85 newly hired
`sales representatives on board for the launch meeting in midFebruary. The addition of the
`new reps will bring our total sales force to approximately 235 representatives.
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`Our promotional planned sales training modules, advertising, patient outreach, and
`internetbased advertising and other demand creation tactics and awareness programs
`are ready to roll out. Marketing research suggest that physician see UCERIS as a
`powerful new therapy for their patients filling a key unmet need in active mild to moderate
`ulcerative colitis, our promotional focus on the two core strengths of UCERIS that were
`demonstrated in our pivotal clinical studies, the efficacy of a steroid combined with a
`favorable tolerability and safety profile.
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`Health professionals will see the UCERIS branding and messages during representative
`visits and other promotional speaker programs as well as through nonpersonal
`promotional via advertising in the topfive GI journals and regular direct communications.
`This will be complimented by a comprehensive digital marketing plan, including internet
`advertising and a full product website be up and running soon.
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`We also recognized that informed patients will be crucial to the success of UCERIS.
`Therefore, we have developed a complementary patient campaign to educate and
`motivate patients to seek medical attention when their disease flares and to ask their
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`doctors about UCERIS. This campaign aims to reach patients where they go most
`frequently for information including social media outlets and key medical information
`websites.
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`In the coming days and weeks, we will also implement a communication program to notify
`our distribution partners, physicians, payors, pharmacists and patients of product approval
`and availability in March. We plan to have all 235 sales representatives promote both, the
`UCERIS and ZEGERID, primarily to gastroenterologists. They will also promote
`GLUMETZA, CYCLOSET and FENOGLIDE to high prescribing physicians who treat
`patients with type 2 diabetes.
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`We believe that having a single sales force promote all of our products is the most efficient
`way to deploy our resources. It allows us to reduce the size of our larger territories and
`near more of our existing territories to allow for higher frequency of calls while minimizing
`disruption and maintaining flexibility for future promotional exchanges. We believe the
`higher call frequency is essentially for success in launching a new pharmaceutical product
`as well as supporting growth for our inline products.
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`The training of our existing sales organization is already underway and will conclude with
`comprehensive product training at the launch meeting in midFebruary. In addition, the
`meeting will allow us to train our entire organization on ZEGERID and train the 85 new
`representatives on our other inline products. Our commercial team is extremely pleased
`to be working toward the goal of successfully launching UCERIS, and continuing the
`growth of our inline products to achieve our financial goals for 2013.
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`Now, I'll turn the call back over to Gerry to wrap it up.
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`Gerry Proehl
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`Thanks, Bill. We've achieved a number of important milestones in last 12 months that we
`believe have created significant value for our stockholders. We substantially grow
`prescriptions and net sales for GLUMETZA and CYCLOSET and added FENOGLIDE to
`our portfolio of promoted products.
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`We received a favorable outcome on ZEGERID patent litigation during the second half of
`2012, which we expect will positively impact our revenues and cash flow to the patent life
`ending in mid2016.
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`On the product development side of the business, we initiated the Phase IIIb clinical study
`to evaluate the use of UCERIS as addon therapy with 5ASA drugs. We reported positive
`Phase III results for both, RUCONEST in hereditary angioedema, and rifamycin SV MMX
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`in travelers' diarrhea.
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`We also completed dosing in healthy volunteers in the Phase I clinical study with SAN300
`testing a subcutaneous formulation developed internally by our product development
`group and an IV formulation. The approval of UCERIS is a major accomplishment for our
`company and I would like to thank our entire team, especially our colleagues and clinical
`regulatory product development manufacturing and our UCERIS launch team that has
`worked so hard to achieve this positive result.
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`I would also like to thank our development partner Cosmo Technologies for working in
`close collaboration with us. We look forward to reporting on a commercial launch of
`UCERIS in the months to come.
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`I'd now like to open the call up to question. Operator?
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`QuestionandAnswer Session
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`Operator
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`(Operator Instructions). Your first question comes from the line of Scott Henry from Roth
`Capital. Your line is now open.
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`Scott Henry Roth Capital
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`Thank you and good morning, and congratulations. Certainly a lot of positive news lately.
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`Gerry Proehl
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`Thanks.
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`Just to get started, when you look at your 2013 guidance, could you give me any color on
`what you are expecting for some of the top line sales targets and perhaps UCERIS as
`well?
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`Debbie Crawford
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`Yes, Scott. Hi. This is Debbie. When we think about 2013 revenue, we expect continued
`growth in GLUMETZA and for it to be a major contributor to our revenues in 2013 as it has
`been in 2012. We also expect ZEGERID to be a significant contributor to the top line as
`well as to the bottom line, because we have very attractive margins on ZEGERID.
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`When we look at the prescription trends for CYCLOSET, we see they continue to be
`incrementally positive than we would expect that to continue as well as FENOGLIDE to
`show some modest growth. When we think about UCERIS, as Gerry mentioned, we are
`looking at a commercial launch in the March timeframe, so we expect the impact of
`UCERIS to be small in the first quarter and to be increasing as we move throughout the
`year.
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`Again, I think when we look at the UCERIS launch, it will be important to factor in the
`availability of patients and how quickly patients might require treatment and in fact seek
`treatment from their physicians, so I think it's important that the forecast related to
`UCERIS, keep in mind, are need to ensure that patients are getting to their physician
`offices to understand that we have this new treatment option available to them.
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`Scott Henry Roth Capital
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`If I could just followup on UCERIS, I would assume you will book only demand revenues
`at this point in time and you will defer the stocking revenues. One, is that the correct
`assumption. And, in the bigger picture, how should we expect scripts to, how should we
`think about that trajectory. And, even longer term, how big of a lever is combination of 5
`ASA trial now that you have approval?
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`Debbie Crawford
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`To answer your first question, Scott, our assumption in our guidance is that, we will be
`booking revenues based upon shipments. However, we are not planning to have a large
`amount of product in initial stocking. I think, given the pricing of the product. That's a key
`dynamic when we think about the ordering patterns that we'll likely see from wholesalers
`and our pharmacies, so that is our current thinking given our experience with a vast
`number of commercial products we believe we'll be able to recognize the revenue upon
`shipments.
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`Maybe I'll turn the call over to Gerry or Bill to talk about prescription.
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`Gerry Proehl
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`Scott, one of the things that we've found as we've gone out and talked with both,
`physicians and patients, first with physicians. Because they have so much experience with
`Entocort EC for Chron's disease, they have very good understanding of UCERIS and
`where it fits in the treatment paradigm. They don't seem to have much issue with thinking
`about using UCERIS to treat their patients that are flaring.
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`I think what we've identified is, any time you launch a new product, probably the biggest
`challenge in a category like that is getting patients actually go and seek treatment from
`their physician. There hasn't been any really new therapy to treat patients with mild to
`moderate ulcerative colitis in quite a few years. There has been some improved dosing of
`5ASAs, but not any new therapies and so one of the things Bill mentioned is, we are
`going to be doing a lot of social media, we are going to be working with the Chron's and
`colitis foundation to try to get to the patients who would like to know that there is a new
`therapy available, but we think that will take a little bit of time.
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`The other customer certainly is dealing with managed care and we have account team
`that's on the ground. They have been working with managed care. In fact, there was
`talking with our director of managed care, we've got meeting set up the rest of this week
`with some of the bigger managed care plans to talk about UCERIS and getting that
`reimbursed, but it's always a challenge initially when you are launching a product,
`because formularies have already been established for 2013, so you have to work with the
`managed care plans in order to get reimbursement, but we feel like the product is going to
`do well. It will take a little bit of time to get it started, but as we've said before, we think that
`peak sales for this product about $300 million.
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`Debbie Crawford
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`Sorry, Scott, as there are some other the people in the queue to ask questions, so maybe
`you can jump back in the queue and let the next person come up?
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`Scott Henry Roth Capital
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`Great. Well, thank you for taking the question.
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`Operator
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`Your next question comes from the line of David Amsellem from Piper Jaffray. Your line is
`now open.
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`David Amsellem Piper Jaffray
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`Thanks. Just a couple of questions specific to the managed care strategy on UCERIS, so I
`wanted to get more color on what your goals are in terms of Tier3 or even Tier2 access
`on commercial plans and then get a sense of a kind of copay assistance you are planning
`to put in place on the product.
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`Bill Denby
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`Hi, David. This is Bill. As Gerry enumerated, sometimes depending on the plan takes a
`little time for them to do their review, in the meantime the vast majority of plans will make
`the product available Tier3 as they go through their valuation process anywhere from
`three to six months going forward.
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`In terms of copay assistance, we plan as we have for the other products, the inline
`products to implement an evoucher at a $25 copay, so almost immediately the product
`will be available for the vast majority of commercial patients at a $25 copay, so that's how
`we have tried to handle managed care. And as Gerry said, we've lined up clinical reviews
`with all the major plans throughout the country in the coming weeks and months.
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`David Amsellem Piper Jaffray
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`Okay. That's helpful. One quick followup. Can you just talk about the percentage of UC
`patients that are covered by Medicaid and are there any meaningful numbers covered by
`Medicare? How do you see the landscape regarding government payors playing out?
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`Gerry Proehl
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`Well, I think I can't remember off the top of my head what the percentages are, but they
`are relatively minor pieces of business, the government side. I would say anywhere from
`5% to 10%, something like that. So, we pay our primary attention to the majority of the
`marketplace to make sure that 80% to 90% folks on the private pay side are getting
`covered and get access to the product.
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`David Amsellem Piper Jaffray
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`Okay. That's helpful. Very quick question on the R&D spend guidance. Can you just point
`out the main drivers of the increase from 2012? I am specifically interested in newly
`initiated studies for '13 that are contributing to the growth.
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`Debbie Crawford
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`Yes. Hi there, David. We look at the R&D expenses. One of the primary contributors is the
`ongoing UCERIS Phase IIIb clinical study. At the end of December, we had enrolled
`approximately half of the planned 500 patients into that study, so we will see the expenses
`continuing into 2013. We also plan to initiate a Phase IIa study with SAN300 in RA
`patients probably around the middle of the year.
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`We are also looking at initiating an exploratory study with RUCONEST and acute
`pancreatitis and we will be incurring cost associated with the submission of the
`RUCONEST BLA, and also potentially some cost associated with rifamycin NDA
`preparation cost depending on the outcome of the second Phase III study, so those are
`the primary activities contributing to the R&D estimate in addition to just our infrastructure
`cost, which include Wendell and his team and others as well as general overhead
`expenses.
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`David Amsellem Piper Jaffray
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`All right. That's helpful. Thanks.
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`Operator
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`(Operator Instructions). Your next question comes from the line of Daniel Chang from
`Stifel. Your line is now open.
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`Daniel Chang Stifel
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`Hi. Thanks very much and congrats on the approval. Just had a couple of questions here,
`firstly on the label and the dosing was there anything surprising in the label? And also, as
`far as the dosing is concerned, do you expect patients to take up to full eight weeks on a
`regular basis for the dosing regimen?
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`Wendell Wierenga
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`This is Wendell. Regarding the label, the label was as expected in terms of 9 milligrams
`for the induction treatment of the mild to moderate ulcerative colitis for eight weeks, which
`of course follows the protocols that were submitted to support the application in the first
`instance and the remainder of the label relates of course to information regarding long
`term safety, which represents the 12month study that we have referred to earlier as well
`as safety during the induction phase of treatment, so that is really what we had expected
`and that's as you will see a description of the label itself.
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`We would anticipate that the treatment of patients who pretty much follow this, because
`it’s a pretty standard [induction] treatment with other agents in this category.
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`Daniel Chang Stifel
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`Okay. Then I had another question on the financials for the NOLs. Can you just give some
`idea of how long you expect the NOLs to last for like first half of 2014, something like that?
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`Debbie Crawford
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`With regards to our NOL, we've reported that at the end of 2011, we had approximately
`$160 million worth of NOLs. We have not provided financial guidance specifically to years
`beyond now 2013, but if you look at the guidance we have provided for '12 and '13,
`certainly, we believe we have sufficient NOLs to cover those periods and would have a
`balance moving into 2014.
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`Daniel Chang Stifel
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`Okay. Great. Thanks.
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`Operator
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`Your next question comes from the line of Brian Lian SunTrust. Your line is now open.
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`Brian Lian SunTrust
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`I may have missed this, but have you disclosed pricing or can you give a range of what
`would be reasonable pricing?
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`Gerry Proehl
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`Brian, this is Gerry. As we have said before, we expect price of UCERIS in the range of
`Entocort EC. It's going to be used very similar to Entocort EC was used Chron's disease
`primarily as an induction dose as opposed 5ASAs that are primarily used as maintenance
`dosages. So, we price it like an induction dose.
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`Brian Lian SunTrust
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`Okay. Thanks. Is there a target gross to net that you have in mind when you account for
`some of the evoucher and other incentives?
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`Gerry Proehl
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`I don't know that we have a target gross and net. Certainly, our experience is almost
`universally out the gate, you can expect 15% to 20% discounts when you add everything
`up. That includes wholesaler fees, prompt pay, just some of the discount you will get with
`managed care, some of the discounting with the evoucher program. So, I think on a
`general basis, that's a pretty good number to use.
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`As we start to engage managed care plans, we'll get a better feel on whether or not that
`will go up or down and that will vary based on whether or not we are able to get on Tier2
`or not, but if you use 15% to 20% starting off, it's probably a good range, but normally
`what we do when we look at that is, we try to determine how much volume we can drive
`based on prescriptions. When we gave you our number, we reported our number, it's a net
`number certainly.
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`Brian Lian SunTrust
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`Okay. Then just finally on the sales reps that you have identified and expect to bring in,
`can you talk a little bit about their profile and what their experience typically looks like.
`Thanks.
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`Bill Denby
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`Hi. This is Bill. First of all, we are about 85% to the of getting 85 reps on board and they
`are currently right now transforming from contingent offers to employed offers so to speak,
`so we are very excited that we are close to the number that we are trying to get to and the
`people that are on board now will accelerate their training. The profile turns out to be we
`started off with a minimum of two to four years of experience and I think the average is
`more on the order of five to seven years of experience and there were new reps that are
`onboarding as we speak.
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`So, we have on balance a highly experienced 235 people. The challenge will be to ramp
`everybody up on the five products we'll be promoting as of March and with the main focus
`and making sure that we get the optimal trajectory in the launch of UCERIS.
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`Operator
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`Your next question comes from the line of (Inaudible). Your line is now open.
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`Unidentified Analyst
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`Hi, Gerry and crew. Once again you shocked me on the upside, so congratulations. I have
`two questions. First one is, what's the total size of the market for UCERIS? The second
`one is, how much of your 2013 expectation of expenses will not be in 2014?
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`Gerry Proehl
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`Maybe I'll touch on the first and Debbie can address the second question. As far as the
`size of the market, if you look at the full inflammatory bowel disease market, it's just a little
`under $2 billion market that it certainly includes 5ASAs. Most of the 5ASAs or actually all
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`the 5ASAs are approved ulcerative colitis although we know that some of the 5ASAs are
`used off label for Chron's disease and obviously Entocort when it had peak sales of about
`$375 million for Chron's disease.
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`If you look at the split between ulcerative colitis and Chron's, it's almost a 5050 split.
`There are about equal number of patients that have UC, that have Chron's. We think that
`the market probably for UC as far as dollars is a little bit higher than the market for Chron's
`disease, but overall you could say it's probably about $1 billion market for UC.
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`Debbie Crawford
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`With regards to our planned expenses, when we think about the component, certainly the
`cost of expanding with 85 sales reps, that will be an ongoing expenditure for us and the
`launch activity certainly are higher in the first year as a percentage of revenue, but when
`we think about it going forward, we may have the same dollar amount of expenses or
`close to it, but as a percentage of revenue that would be going down, so we will evaluate
`the level of marketing and other expenditures as we move through the launch period and
`see how we are doing with regards to the growth of the product, but certainly UCERIS is
`an important product for us and we felt that it was important to have the appropriate level
`of resources and spend behind the launch activity.
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`Unidentified Analyst
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`Okay. Thank you. Just for your information stock is trading $12.91 right now.
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`Gerry Proehl
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`Great. Thank you.
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`Operator
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`Your next question comes from the line of Scott Henry from Roth Capital. Your line is now
`open.
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`Scott Henry Roth Capital
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`Thank you for taking the followup question. Gerry, I was wondering, could you give any
`color on the ZEGERID relaunch. How should we think about that line in terms of
`revenues when we look out to 2013?
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`Gerry Proehl
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`Scott, I'll try to give you a little bit of color to the relaunch. I am not sure that I will give you
`enough clarity that what you want for revenues of ZEGERID, but what we've said before
`with regards to ZEGERID over the past two years, as it went generic. We lost about 15%
`of the prescription volume. If you add up our brand volume, the volume from Proscar,
`authorized generic and the volume from PARS generic. Volume was down about 50%.
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`Certainly with PAR, stopping shipping of their product, we've been able to capture most of
`their generic business and we are at about 96% of the generic business that's going to
`Prasco, and Prasco has taken their price up fairly substantially. That's obviously going to
`help our revenue. What we are trying to do with the relaunch of ZEGERID is, number
`one, stop the decline of the prescription trend. That will be our first focus.
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`We'll be putting ZEGERID in the second detailed position behind UCERIS. When we are
`calling on gastroenterologists, and then there's a select group of primary care physicians
`that we call on for GLUMETZA that will also be detailing ZEGERID too, and we expect
`then in 2013, to really stop the decline of the prescriptions as we move towards the end of
`2013, then we'll look to start to actually see some slight growth in the prescription trends,
`but at a much price than it was before PAR stopped shipping their generic.
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`Scott Henry Roth Capital
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`Thank you for that color. Then I guess just a followup to the NOL question for Debra. I
`guess, I could try to back out the tax rate, but I just wanted to see if you could give any
`guidance on what are the tax rate, I am sure they are at certain minimum level of taxes
`you pay in 2013. What's a good rate to think about for that year?
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`Debbie Crawford
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`I think, Scott, the way we have provided the guidance and the adjusted EBITDA
`reconciliation, is that we are anticipating income tax expense of about $4 million on that
`net income of $50 million to $54 million. That's net of the $4 million in taxes for 2013.
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`Scott Henry Roth Capital
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`Okay. Great. Thank you for the added color and thank you for taking the question.
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`Gerry Proehl
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`Great. Thanks, Scott.
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`Debbie Crawford
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`Thanks, Scott.
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`Operator
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`There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to the
`presenters.
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`Gerry Proehl
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`Great. Well, I'd like to thank you for your interest in Santarus and for joining this morning's
`call. If you do have any further questions, feel free to call Debbie, myself or Martha Hough.
`Thank you and have a great day.
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`Operator
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