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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`AMAZON.COM, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`CUSTOMPLAY, LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`IPR2018-01497
`Patent 9,124,950
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`DECLARATION OF ALAN C. BOVIK IN SUPPORT OF
`AMAZON’S REPLY TO PATENT OWNER’S RESPONSE
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`Amazon Ex. 1102
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`I.
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`TABLE OF CONTENTS
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`b. 
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`c. 
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`2. 
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`3. 
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`CLAIMS 2, 4, 6, 14, 16, AND 19 WOULD HAVE BEEN
`OBVIOUS TO A PERSON OF ORDINARY SKILL -------------------------- 2 
`A.  Overview of the Petition ---------------------------------------------------- 2 
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`Claims 6 and 19 Would Have Been Obvious in View of
`Rangan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 
`1. 
`Rangan Discloses Retrieving a Video Frame
`Identifier Responsive to a Play Location -------------------------- 3 
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`Rangan’s Thumbnail Images Are Video Frame
`Identifiers ------------------------------------------------------ 3 
`Rangan Discloses “Retrieving” a Video Frame
`Identifier ------------------------------------------------------- 6 
`Rangan’s Keyframe Thumbnails Are
`Responsive to a Play Location ------------------------------ 9 
`Rangan Discloses Displaying an Indication That
`Information Is Available ------------------------------------------- 13 
`Rangan Discloses Retrieving a Subsequent Video
`Frame Identifier and Displaying a Subsequent
`Indication That Information Is Available ------------------------ 16 
`Claims 2, 14, and 16 Would Have Been Obvious in View of
`Rangan and Rakib ----------------------------------------------------------- 16 
`1. 
`Rangan Discloses Receiving a Request for
`Additional Information --------------------------------------------- 17 
`Combining Rangan and Rakib ------------------------------------- 19 
`2. 
`Claim 4 Would Have Been Obvious in View of Rangan,
`Rakib, and Abecassis ------------------------------------------------------- 23 
`1. 
`Rangan Discloses Resuming Playing at a Beginning
`of a Video Clip ------------------------------------------------------- 23 
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`Abecassis Discloses Resuming at a Beginning of a
`Video Clip ------------------------------------------------------------ 26 
`Claims 2, 6, 14, 16, and 19 Would Have Been Obvious in
`View of Armstrong and Livesey ------------------------------------------ 27 
`1. 
`Armstrong Discloses Retrieving Video Frame
`Identifiers ------------------------------------------------------------- 27 
`Armstrong Discloses Displaying an Initial Indication ---------- 32 
`Armstrong Discloses Displaying a Subsequent
`Indication ------------------------------------------------------------- 32 
`Livesey Discloses Displaying Contemporaneous
`Indications ------------------------------------------------------------ 34 
`Claim 4 Would Have Been Obvious in View of Armstrong,
`Livesey, and Abecassis ----------------------------------------------------- 37 
`Claims 2, 4, 6, 14, 16, and 19 Would Have Been Obvious in
`View of Rakib and Livesey ------------------------------------------------ 37 
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`Pausing ---------------------------------------------------------------- 40 
`2. 
`Resuming ------------------------------------------------------------- 41 
`CONCLUSION --------------------------------------------------------------------- 42 
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`I, Alan C. Bovik, do hereby declare:
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`1.
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`In preparing this Declaration, I considered the Declaration of Clifford
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`Reader (Ex. 2021), the exhibits cited therein, and all other references identified
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`herein.
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`2.
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`I understand that my prior declaration was submitted as Exhibit 1002,
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`and I refer to certain portions of that declaration herein. I remain unaware of any
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`evidence that would suggest that the claims of the ’950 patent would not have been
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`obvious.
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`3.
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`I understand that Dr. Reader has applied a slightly different definition
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`than I have for a person of ordinary skill in the art. Ex. 2021 ¶51. While I disagree
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`with Dr. Reader as to that definition, my opinions would not change under his def-
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`inition.
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`4.
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`In this Declaration, I provide opinions and enumerate ways in which I
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`disagree with Dr. Reader and his opinions as stated in his Declaration (Ex. 2021).
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`However, this Declaration does not enumerate all ways in which I disagree with
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`Dr. Reader, and the fact that I do not address some of Dr. Reader’s statements
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`should not be taken to mean that I agree with them.
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`I. CLAIMS 2, 4, 6, 14, 16, AND 19 WOULD HAVE BEEN OBVIOUS
`TO A PERSON OF ORDINARY SKILL
`A. Overview of the Petition
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`5.
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`In ¶¶69-70, Dr. Reader makes broad criticisms of alleged failings of
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`the prior art references and combinations thereof. Dr. Reader fails to identify any
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`specific prior art references or any specific failings with respect to those references
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`(or combinations thereof). To the extent Dr. Reader’s declaration makes state-
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`ments about specific prior art references (or combinations thereof), I address those
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`statements in the paragraphs below.
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`B. Claims 6 and 19 Would Have Been Obvious in View of Rangan
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`6.
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`In ¶¶71-72, Dr. Reader states that “claims 6 and 19 of the ’950 patent
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`are not rendered unpatentable by Rangan alone or in combination with the
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`knowledge of a POSITA” because “Rangan specifically fails to disclose, teach or
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`suggest, all of the limitations recited in claim 6.” Dr. Reader then identifies the
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`“retrieving” and “displaying” limitations as the limitations he states Rangan fails to
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`disclose. Ex. 2021 ¶¶73-90. To the extent that Dr. Reader suggests that Rangan
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`fails to disclose those limitations, I disagree for the reasons set forth in my prior
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`declaration (Ex. 1002 ¶¶47-60) and for the additional reasons stated in ¶¶7-31 be-
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`1.
`Rangan Discloses Retrieving a Video Frame Identifier
`Responsive to a Play Location
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`7.
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`In ¶73, Dr. Reader states that “Rangan fails to teach, suggest, or dis-
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`close” the “retrieving” limitation. I disagree for the reasons enumerated below in
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`¶¶8-26.
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`8.
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`In ¶73, Dr. Reader also states that “[r]etrieval is an active verb, not a
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`passive verb and Petitioner’s interpretation of Rangan ignores this distinction.”
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`My understanding is that “retrieval” is a noun, not a verb and the claims do not re-
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`cite “retrieval.” Regardless, my opinion of Rangan’s disclosure does not change
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`based on Dr. Reader’s assertion regarding the grammatical use of “retrieval” (or
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`“retrieve” using any suffix) in the claims.
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`a.
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`Rangan’s Thumbnail Images Are Video Frame
`Identifiers
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`9.
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`In ¶74, Dr. Reader states that Rangan does not support “Petitioner’s
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`statement that ‘[e]ach thumbnail image constitutes a video frame identifier because
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`it is information that identifies a single frame, e.g., the first frame in each sce-
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`ne’[.]” To the extent Dr. Reader contends that Rangan’s thumbnails are not video
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`frame identifiers because they do not identify a single frame (e.g., the first frame in
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`each scene), I disagree. Dr. Reader states in ¶78 that Rangan retrieves “a first vid-
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`eo frame image for generation of a keyframe thumbnail image.” Moreover,
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`Rangan explicitly states that the thumbnail images are created from the first frame
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`in each scene. Ex. 1014, 29:8-10 (“A detected scene change is represented by a
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`keyframe (thumbnail image), which is a reduced image of the first frame in the
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`scene”). Rangan’s system uses the thumbnails (and/or associated frame numbers
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`or time stamps) to identify a specific frame in the video from which the thumbnail
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`was generated (e.g., the first frame in the scene). For example, Rangan discloses
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`that the system identifies the frame associated with the keyframe thumbnail when
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`it initiates playback or recording from the associated frame. Ex. 1014, 9:15-20,
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`30:7-27. Accordingly, Rangan’s thumbnail images each identify a single video
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`frame and are thus video frame identifiers. Ex. 1002 ¶¶47-52.
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`10.
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`In ¶75, Dr. Reader states that Rangan’s thumbnail images do not con-
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`stitute video frame identifiers because “where two are more of Rangan’s generated
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`thumbnail images are identical to one another, the corresponding ‘information’
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`contained in those generated thumbnail images fails to identify a video frame iden-
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`tifier.” I disagree. As discussed in the paragraph immediately above, because
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`Rangan’s thumbnails are generated from the first frame of each scene and only one
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`“first frame” exists for each scene, Rangan’s thumbnail images identify single,
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`unique frames.
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`11. Dr. Reader’s statement is also incorrect because the claims of the ’950
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`patent do not require that video frame identifiers have different content, only that
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`they be “responsive to a play location within a playing of a video.” Ex. 1001,
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`claim 6; see id., 13:63-14:12 (disclosing that video frame identifiers identify a lo-
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`cation within the video). As discussed above in ¶¶9-10, Rangan’s thumbnails do
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`precisely that. Even if their content were the same, they would still identify, and
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`be responsive to, distinct play locations (e.g., first frame of a scene).
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`12.
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`In ¶76, Dr. Reader reiterates his opinion that “Rangan’s generated
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`thumbnail images (keyframes) are not equivalent to the claimed ‘video frame iden-
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`tifier[’]” and that “Rangan fails to disclose, teach or suggest the claimed” retriev-
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`ing limitation. As discussed in ¶¶9-11 above, I disagree. See also Ex. 1002 ¶¶47-
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`52.
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`13.
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`In ¶77, Dr. Reader states that Rangan’s “representative scenes do not
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`have to be the first frame of any scene.” It is unclear what Dr. Reader means by
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`his statement, but to the extent he is indicating that Rangan’s keyframes are not the
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`first frame of the scene, I disagree. Rangan states that “representative scenes” are
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`displayed (Ex. 1014, 9:12-15) using keyframes created from the first frame of
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`those representative scenes. Id., 29:60-64. Rangan repeatedly discloses that the
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`keyframe is created from the first frame of a scene. Id., 29:8-10 (“A detected sce-
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`ne change is represented by a keyframe (thumbnail image), which is a reduced im-
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`age of the first frame in the scene.”), 29:60-64 (“A keyframe for the scene is gen-
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`erated by mathematically reducing its first frame.”), 31:40-45 (“A new scene is
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`represented by the reduced, thumbnail-size, image of its first frame.”), claim 14.
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`Regardless, whether Rangan uses the first frame, the last frame, or any other frame
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`in the scene is irrelevant because any keyframe (or frame number) still identifies a
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`video frame and would thus be understood by the skilled artisan to be a video
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`frame identifier.
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`b.
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`Rangan Discloses “Retrieving” a Video Frame
`Identifier
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`14. Also in ¶77, Dr. Reader states that “Rangan’s disclosure of the
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`‘canned’ video and the manual detection of scenes, as well as Rangan’s scene
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`change boundary markers, fail to actually incorporate Rangan’s system.” It is un-
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`clear what Dr. Reader means when he says that Rangan’s disclosure “fail[s] to ac-
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`tually incorporate Rangan’s system.” However, to the extent Dr. Reader argues
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`that Rangan’s disclosure of how scenes are detected somehow precludes the re-
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`trieval of a video frame identifier, I disagree. A person of ordinary skill in the art
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`would have understood that the portions of Rangan referred to by Dr. Reader (e.g.,
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`the portions discussing “‘canned’ video and the manual detection of scenes, as well
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`as Rangan’s scene change boundary markers”) discuss how scene changes are de-
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`tected, not which frames are used to represent scenes. Ex. 1014, 14:15-18. Re-
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`gardless of how the scene change is detected, Rangan discloses that the keyframe
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`is generated from the first frame of a scene (e.g., the first frame after the scene
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`change is detected). As discussed in ¶¶16-17 below, a person of ordinary skill in
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`keyframe constitutes retrieving a video frame identifier. See also Ex. 1002 ¶¶47-
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`52. And, regardless of how the keyframe is generated, it still identifies a video
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`frame and is therefore a video frame identifier.
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`15. Finally, in ¶77 Dr. Reader states that Rangan “fail[s] to make any kind
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`of determination of what is included in the scene.” As I explained above in ¶11,
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`the claims of the ’950 patent do not require that video frame identifiers have par-
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`ticular content, only that they be “responsive to a play location within a playing of
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`a video.” Ex. 1001, claim 6; see id., 13:63-14:12 (disclosing that video frame iden-
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`tifiers identify a location within the video). As discussed above in ¶¶9-11,
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`Rangan’s disclosure provides precisely that. See also Ex. 1002 ¶¶47-52. Whether
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`or not Rangan determines what is included in a scene is not relevant. Moreover,
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`Rangan does make a “determination of what is included in the scene” when it pro-
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`vides hotspots linking to additional information regarding the contents of the sce-
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`ne. See id. ¶¶53-55, 57-60, 63-65.
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`16.
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`In ¶78, Dr. Reader concedes that Rangan disclosed “retrieving” a vid-
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`eo frame identifier but states that Rangan’s retrieval of a video frame identifier “is
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`not the functional equivalent of” the claimed retrieving function. I disagree. Dr.
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`Reader fails to identify what he perceives as the difference between Rangan and
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`the claims of the ’950 patent. Accordingly, I do not know what Dr. Reader’s opin-
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`ion is based on. However, the ’950 patent does not require the retrieving function
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`to be performed in any particular manner. In fact, the specification of the ’950 pa-
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`tent provides that “retrieve” should be construed broadly to include “obtain, ac-
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`quire, procure, download, transfer, extract, and to come into possession by any
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`means or methodology.” Ex. 1001, 15:4-8. Dr. Reader notes that Rangan disclos-
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`es that the thumbnail images are “generated” (Ex. 2021 ¶¶75-76, 78), but he never
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`explains why “generating” does not constitute “obtaining” (and thus “retrieving”)
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`the thumbnail. Likewise, Rangan’s thumbnail is “a reduced image” of a frame.
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`Ex. 1014, 29:8-10. Dr. Reader never explains why such a “reduced image” is not
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`“extracted,” and therefore “retrieved.” Nor does Dr. Reader explain why generat-
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`ing thumbnails or reducing images are not methods of “com[ing] into posses-
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`sion”—and therefore “retrieving”—the thumbnail image. Ex. 1001, 15:4-8.
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`Moreover, each of these is an “active” step, as Dr. Reader proposes is required by
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`the “retrieving” limitation.
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`17.
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`In ¶79, Dr. Reader states that “Petitioner fails to establish that a
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`POSITA would have understood [that] . . . Rangan’s operation on the display of
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`thumbnail images that are ‘cached in a digital data cache’” would have performed
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`the “retrieving” limitations. To the extent Dr. Reader suggests that Rangan’s
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`thumbnail images are not retrieved because they are cached, I disagree. Dr. Reader
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`states in ¶79 that Rangan displays the thumbnails. But Dr. Reader never explains
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`how displaying the thumbnails is possible without the thumbnails being “retrieved”
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`from storage. In order to display an image, it necessarily must be retrieved from
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`wherever the image is stored (e.g., the data cache). And Rangan explicitly refers to
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`this process as “obtaining” the keyframe thumbnails. Ex. 1014, 34:67-68. Be-
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`cause Rangan also discloses that the cache contains multiple keyframes (id., 17:44-
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`54, 16:30-36), it discloses that the video frame identifiers (keyframes) are retrieved
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`from a plurality of video frame identifiers (multiple keyframes in the data cache).
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`Rangan’s Keyframe Thumbnails Are Responsive to a
`Play Location
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`18.
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`In ¶80, Dr. Reader states that the Petition fails to convey “that
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`Rangan’s keyframes are ‘responsive to’ anything other than scene changes” be-
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`cause “Rangan’s keyframes are automatically generated by ‘detecting scene
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`changes’ in the video.” To the extent Dr. Reader is arguing Rangan’s keyframes
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`are not responsive to a play location, I disagree. Rangan discloses that each
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`keyframe thumbnail is generated based on, and is responsive to, the first frame of a
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`scene. Ex. 1014, 29:60-64. Each keyframe is therefore responsive to a scene gen-
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`erally and a scene’s first frame specifically. Both the scene and the scene’s first
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`frame are play locations within the playing of a video. Moreover, as Dr. Reader
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`stated, Rangan’s keyframes are responsive to scene changes. Id., 9:12-15, 9:51-53.
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`A person of ordinary skill in the art would also have understood that scene changes
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`occur at, and are, play locations within the playing of a video. Thus, each
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`keyframe is responsive to the play location associated with a scene change or first
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`frame.
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`19.
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`In ¶81, Dr. Reader states that “Rangan’s system admits that thumb-
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`nail/keyframes are not responsive to a play location within a playing of a video”
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`because “an integral part of Rangan’s system” is the data cache “where Rangan’s
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`thumbnail images are sourced.” As discussed in above in ¶18, I disagree with Dr.
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`Reader’s conclusion that Rangan’s system is not responsive to a play location. A
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`person of ordinary skill in the art would have understood that the storage location
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`(e.g., cache) of Rangan’s thumbnails is irrelevant to whether they are responsive to
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`a play location within a playing of a video. Storing keyframes or thumbnails in
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`cache, a form of memory, does not make them any less responsive to a play loca-
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`tion. In fact, a person of ordinary skill would have understood that the keyframes
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`or thumbnails would necessarily have to be stored in some form of memory in or-
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`der to be accessed and used by Rangan’s system.
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`20.
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`In ¶¶82-83, Dr. Reader states that Rangan requires discarding scenes
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`from the data cache in order to allow “entry of new thumbnails in the storyboard in
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`‘a first-displayed, first-discarded scheme’” and that “Rangan is only enabled to re-
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`trieve keyframes from a preset threshold number of already-viewed scenes from
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`the data cache[.]” Whether the keyframes are deleted from the cache to make way
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`for new frames is irrelevant to whether Rangan discloses the claimed limitation.
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`The claims do not require that the video frame identifiers be stored for any length
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`of time after the display. Accordingly, it is irrelevant whether the keyframes are
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`ultimately discarded as new keyframes are retrieved.
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`21.
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`In ¶83, Dr. Reader concludes that the keyframes “are not responsive
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`to a play location because the cached scenes are previously viewed scenes.” I dis-
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`agree. A person of ordinary skill in the art would have understood that the claim
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`requires only that the keyframes be responsive to “a play location,” not the current
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`play location. E.g., Ex. 1001, claim 6 (emphasis added). Such a person would
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`have understood that keyframes corresponding to previously viewed scenes still
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`correspond to the first frames of those scenes, which are play locations in the video
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`and therefore satisfy the claim limitation.
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`22.
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`In any event, Rangan discloses that the currently playing scene’s
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`keyframe is included in the data cache because it discloses that “[w]hen a new sce-
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`ne is detected, [its keyframe] enters the lowest corner” of the thumbnail story-
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`board. Ex. 1014, 14:35-44. Accordingly, the keyframe of at least the current scene
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`(which is responsive to the current play location) is located in and retrieved from
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`the data cache, just as the keyframes from already-viewed scenes are located in and
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`retrieved from the data cache.
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`23.
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`In ¶84, Dr. Reader states that “[d]ue to Rangan’s requisite data cache
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`feature, a POSITA would not have been motivated to modify Rangan to arrive at
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`the claimed ‘video frame identifier that is responsive to a play location within a
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`playing of a video.’” This is incorrect. No modification of Rangan would be nec-
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`essary because Rangan already discloses the limitation. As I discussed in my prior
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`declaration, Rangan discloses keyframes or thumbnails that are video frame identi-
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`fiers that are responsive to a play location. Ex. 1002 ¶¶48-50. Rangan also dis-
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`closes identifying frames using, for example, frame numbers. Id. ¶51; Ex. 1014,
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`14:45-63 (frame number used to identify location), 30:15-36 (“the decoder pro-
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`vides the current video frame number” to identify where to begin recording). A
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`person of ordinary skill would have understood that Rangan’s system references
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`the frame number to create the keyframe thumbnail and to access that frame, and
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`that the frame number is thus a video frame identifier. Even if this was not dis-
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`closed or suggested by Rangan, it would have been obvious to a person of ordinary
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`skill to modify Rangan to do so because identifying frames by frame number was
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`well-known in the art. See, e.g., Ex. 1002 ¶52; Ex. 1021, Fig. 2A; Ex. 1013
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`¶[0076].
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`24.
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`In ¶85, Dr. Reader states that “Petitioner fails to address that the re-
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`trieving of a video frame identifier is responsive to a play location within a playing
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`of a video. Indeed, nothing in the Petition establishes that Rangan’s keyframes are
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`‘responsive to’ anything other than scene changes.” To the extent Dr. Reader is
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`arguing Rangan’s keyframes are not responsive to a play location, I disagree for
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`the reasons I have stated above in ¶18.
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`25.
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`In ¶86, Dr. Reader states that “a POSITA could understand that
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`Rangan does not have to determine and retrieve the first frame of any scene[.]” I
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`disagree. As discussed above in ¶14, a person of ordinary skill in the art would
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`have understood that, as Rangan explicitly discloses, the first frame of each scene
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`is retrieved in order to generate and display the keyframe. Moreover, as discussed
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`in ¶13, the specific frame of each scene used to generate the keyframe is irrelevant.
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`26.
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`In ¶86, Dr. Reader also states that “Rangan states that the selected im-
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`age is ‘representative’ and not ‘first.” I disagree. Dr. Reader conflates scenes with
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`frames. Rangan states that “representative scenes” are displayed (.Ex. 1014, 9:12-
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`15) (emphasis added) using keyframes created from the first frame of those repre-
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`sentative scenes. Id., 29:60-64. Nevertheless, even if Dr. Reader is correct that
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`Rangan’s keyframe image is “‘representative’ and not ‘first,’” the keyframe is still
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`responsive to a play location (e.g., the scene generally and the frame that became
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`the keyframe image specifically).
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`2.
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`Rangan Discloses Displaying an Indication That
`Information Is Available
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`27.
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`In ¶¶87-88, Dr. Reader states that, in order for Rangan’s hotspot to be
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`“responsive to the play location (e.g., frame),” the hotspot must “be responsive to
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`frame identifiers.” Dr. Reader then states that this “conflicts with Petitioner’s ear-
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`lier assertion that hotspots are responsive to a frame.” I disagree with Dr. Reader’s
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`understanding of the claim. A person of ordinary skill would have understood that
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`the claim requires that the indication be responsive to the video frame identifier,
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`whereas the information that is indicated to be available is responsive to the play
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`location. Ex. 1001, claim 6. Rangan discloses that hotspots are “painted over their
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`corresponding video frames,” Ex. 1014, 29:15-16, and are a visual representation
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`that there are links to additional information associated with an object on the
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`frame. Id., 19:28-45 (“The user can click on these hotspots as the video is playing
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`and jump to another video, or hypervideo, or web page, or even initiate a web
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`based transaction—all depending on the hot links associated with that object.”),
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`25:57-26:2 (“These annotations can beneficially serve to impart additional, sup-
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`plemental, information about the scene and/or the objects in it and/or the
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`hotspot[.]”), 27:4-6. Accordingly, Rangan’s hotspots (indications) are specific to,
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`and responsive to, individual keyframe thumbnails (video frame identifiers). Id.,
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`29:15-16. The indication (hotspot) signals that information is available (via a hy-
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`perlink) that is responsive to the play location (the frame/scene represented by the
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`keyframe). Id., 19:28-45, 25:57-26:2, 27:4-6. Thus Rangan discloses this limita-
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`tion and there is no conflict.
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`28. However, even if the initial indication, rather than the information,
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`must be responsive to the play location, Rangan would still disclose the limitation.
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`Because Rangan’s video frame identifier (keyframe) identifies an individual frame
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`and the scene associated with it, the keyframe identifies a play location. Thus,
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`Rangan’s indications (hotspots) are responsive to both a video frame identifier
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`(keyframe or frame number) and a play location (frame/scene associated with the
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`keyframe or frame number).
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`29.
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`I understand that Patent Owner additionally argues that “Rangan does
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`not disclose an initial indication” because, according to Patent Owner, Rangan’s
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`hotspot cannot be an “indication information is available” if the remaining portion
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`of the keyframe thumbnail is the “video frame identifier.” Dr. Reader does not of-
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`fer an opinion on this limitation. I disagree with Patent Owner’s conclusion.
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`Rangan’s hotspot is a distinct grid, coloration, or some other visually perceptible
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`clue that can be “overla[id]” on a video frame or thumbnail. Ex. 1014, 15:27-60,
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`9:64-10:9, Fig. 4. Indeed, Rangan’s indications are the same the ’950 patent’s:
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`Rangan (Ex. 1014, Fig. 4)
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`’950 Patent (Ex. 1001, Fig. 1B)
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`See also Ex. 1001, 7:38-48 (describing the indication as “an outline 141 … [or] an
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`area of increased brightness”). Rangan describes displaying the same “indication”
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`on the thumbnail images. Ex. 1002 ¶54.
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`3.
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`Rangan Discloses Retrieving a Subsequent Video Frame
`Identifier and Displaying a Subsequent Indication That
`Information Is Available
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`30.
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`In ¶¶89-90, Dr. Reader states that Rangan “fails to disclose, teach or
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`suggest” retrieving a subsequent video frame identifier and displaying a subse-
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`quent indication for the same reasons he relies on regarding the first video frame
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`identifier and initial indication. I disagree from the same reasons I have stated
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`above in ¶¶7-29 regarding the first video frame identifier and initial indication.
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`31.
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`In ¶91, Dr. Reader states that his opinions regarding Rangan and its
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`application to claim 6 apply also to claim 19. I disagree with Dr. Reader’s opin-
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`ions as applied to claim 19 for the reasons discussed above.
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`C. Claims 2, 14, and 16 Would Have Been Obvious in View of
`Rangan and Rakib
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`32.
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`In ¶93, Dr. Reader states that “claims 2, 14, and 16 of the ‘950 patent
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`are not rendered unpatentable by Rangan and Rakib” and that “Rakib does not
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`remedy the deficiencies” of Rangan. Dr. Reader fails to provide any analysis of
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`these claims and accordingly I do not know what Dr. Reader’s opinion is based on.
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`To the extent this statement is based on Dr. Reader’s other statements in his decla-
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`33.
`In ¶93, Dr. Reader also states that “the proposed modification of
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`Rangan based on Rakib would require a change in the operating principle of
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`Rangan.” As discussed in ¶¶39-41 below, I disagree.
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`1.
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`Rangan Discloses Receiving a Request for Additional
`Information
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`34.
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`In ¶94, Dr. Reader states that “Rangan fails [to disclose this limita-
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`tion] for the same reasons discussed above. Indeed, here to [sic] Petitioner relies
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`on Rangan’s hotspots against a completely different limitation.” To the extent Dr.
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`Reader is arguing that I relied on the same structure (hotspots) as disclosing two
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`separate claim elements, I disagree. I also disagree that Rangan fails to disclose
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`receiving a request for additional information.
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`35. Rangan discloses receiving a request for additional information in at
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`least three independent ways, none of which require the hotspot to disclose two
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`separate claim elements. First, Rangan discloses that the indication (in this case,
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`the hotspot disclosed by Rangan) may be annotated and that those annotations may
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`include a URL. Ex. 1014, 13:64-14:7 (“[W]hen playing hypervideos the video-on-
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`web VCR displays a text annotation . . . commonly, however, the annotation is, or
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`includes, a Universal Resource Locator, or URL.”). The annotations appear upon a
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`“mouse over” and the URL is activated when the user clicks on the hotspot. Id.
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`Thus, Rangan discloses displaying indications (hotspots) associated with multiple
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`playing information (an annotation containing a URL) associated with the initial
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`indication (hotspot), receiving a request for additional information (a user’s click
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`on a displayed URL), and displaying additional information (another video, web
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`page or image). This disclosure does not rely on Rangan’s hotspots against multi-
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`ple claim limitations, contrary to Dr. Reader’s statement.
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`36. Second, Rangan discloses including a first hyperlink in a first video
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`that directs a user to a second video that contains a second hyperlink. E.g., id.,
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`11:64-66 (“[t]he inserted hyperlinks will . . . serve to access still further, other, dig-
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`ital (hyper)video clips, particularly commercials.”), 14:52-64 (the user may contin-
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`ue “the process of clicking on objects within successive videos”), 10:40-44 (the us-
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`er “may indulge himself or herself to follow all hyperlinks” to “any network place
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`or resource that is desired”). Thus, Rangan discloses displaying indications
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`(hotspots) associated with multiple play locations, receiving a request (a user’s
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`click on a hyperlink) responsive to the indication, displaying information (a second
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`hypervideo) associated with the initial indication (hotspot), receiving a request for
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`additional information (clicking on a hyperlink in the second hypervideo), and dis-
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`playing additional information (another video, web page or image). This disclo-
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`sure likewise does not rely on Rangan’s hotspots against multiple claim limita-
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`37. Finally, Rangan discloses that a user may access additional infor-
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`mation by branching from the original hyperlink, such as by “engag[ing] in e-
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`commerce.” Id., 11:16-25. A person of ordinary skill in the art would have under-
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`stood that engaging in e-commerce would involve Rangan’s system displaying in-
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`dications (hotspots) associated with multiple play locations, receiving a request (a
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`user’s click on a URL or hyperlink associated with e-commerce) responsive to the
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`indication, displaying information (for example, product information) associated
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`with the initial indication (hotspot), receiving a request for additional information
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`(for example, a user clicking on a further URL or hyperlink in order to view a pic-
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`ture of the product, or the price of the product, or the like), and displaying addi-
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`tional information (a picture of the product, the price of the product, or the like).
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`This disclosure also does not rely on Rangan’s hotspots for multiple claim limita-
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`tions.
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`38.
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`In ¶95, Dr. Reader states that “Rakib fails to remedy the deficiencies
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`of Rangan on this limitation” but fails to provide any analysis or explanation as to
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`why he believes Rakib fails to “remedy the deficiencies.” Accordingly, I do not
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`know what Dr. Reader’s opinion is based on.
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`2.
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`Combining Rangan and Rakib
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`39.
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