Archived: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 2:20:03 PM
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`From: Bodner Marcella M.
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`Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:59:53 PM
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`To: Nirav N. Desai: Jason Eisenberg; Trevor O'Neill
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`Cc: Hickex Adrienne; Crowley, Luanne; Dade James Perkins James PTAB Account' Sorden, Gary
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`Subject: RE: Lutron v GeigTech - PGR2020-00012 & -00013
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`Sensitivity: N ormal
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`Nirav:
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`We intend to use the documents as part of our introduction to the technology, the parties, and the industry and in support for
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`our analysis of secondary considerations of non-obviousness. See, e.g., Liqwd, Inc. v. L'Orea/ USA, Inc., 941 F.3d 1133, 1137
`(Fed. Cir. 2019) (”It is well established that copying by a competitor is a relevant consideration in the objective indicia
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`Evidence of copying may include
`analysis. Such copying may be evidence that the patented invention is nonobvious.
`internal documents, direct evidence such as photos of patented features or disassembly of products, or access and similarity
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`to a patented product.) (internal citations omitted).
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`Please get back to us as soon as you are able to speak with your client. Thank you.
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`Kind Regards,
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`Cole Schotz RC.
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`Marcella M. Bodner
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`Direct 201.525.6242 | Firm 201.489.3000 | Fax 201.678.6242 | mbodner@coleschotz.com_
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`From: Nirav N. Desai <NDESA|@sternekessler.com>
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`Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 2:13 PM
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`To: Sorden, Gary <GSorden@coleschotz.com>; Bodner, Marcella M. <MBodner@co|eschotz.com>; Jason Eisenberg
`<jasone@sternekessler.com>,' Trevor O'Neill <TOneill@sternekessler.com>,' PTAB Account <PTAB@sternekessler.com>
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`Cc: Hickey, Adrienne <AHickey@coleschotz.com>; Crowley, Luanne <LCrowley@coleschotz.com>; Dade, James
`<JDade@coleschotz.com>; Perkins, James <JPerkins@coleschotz.com>; PTAB Account <PTAB@ste rnekessler.com>; PTAB
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`Account <PTAB@sternekessler.com>
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`Subject: RE: Lutron v GeigTech — PGR2020—00012 & -00013
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`Dear Gary and Marcella,
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`We don’t have an answerfor you yet, but as we confer with our client to determine their position, it would be helpful to
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`know how you intend to use these documents from the litigation in your preliminary response in this proceeding. Please let
`us know how you will use these documents so that we can include in our discussions with our client.
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`Best regards,
`Nirav
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`GeigTech East Bay LLC EX. 2008
`US. Patent No. 10,294,717
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`To: Jason Eisenberg <'asone@sternekessler.com>; Nirav N. Desai <NDESAI@sternekessler.com>; Trevor O'Neill
`<TOnei||@sternekessler.com>; PTAB Account <PTAB sternekessler.com>
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`Cc: Bodner, Marcella M. <MBodner@co|eschotz.com>,- Sorden, Gary <GSorden@coleschotz.com>; Hickey, Adrienne
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`<AHickey@coleschotz.com>; Crowley, Luanne <LCrow|ey@coleschotz.com>; Dade, James <JDade@coleschotz.com>; Perkins,
`James <1Perkins@coleschotz.com>; PTAB Account <PTAB@sternekessler.com>; PTAB Account <PTAB ste rnekessler.com>
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`Subject: Lutron v GeigTech — PGR2020—00012 & —00013
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`Lutron v. GeigTech
`USPTO/ PTAB
`PGR2020—00012
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`PGR2020-00013
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`Your Docket No.:
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`tbd
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`Our Docket No.: 59532-0002
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`Jason and Nirav:
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`I am reaching out pursuant to 37 CFR § 42.54 to confer about a Motion to Seal and a proposed Protective Order. There are
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`several documents (attached) that we intend to include as exhibits to our preliminary responses to Lutron’s PGR Petitions.
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`The attached documents were produced in the underlying ligation and Lutron designated them ’CONFIDENTIAL—ATTORNEYS
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`EYES ONLY” pursuant to the Protective Order.
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`Our hope is that we can come to an agreement to either de—designate the documents we intend to use or to agree on a
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`proposed protective orderto submit to the Board along with a Motion to Seal as required underthe rules. There is a default
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`Protective Order, but assuming Lutron does not agree to de—designate, we propose that we request the Board enter the same
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`Protective Order that the District Court entered and to which the parties have already agreed. But we are open to hearing
`yourthoughts.
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`As the April 7 deadline for submission of Patentee’s preliminary response is a little less than two weeks away, we hope to be
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`able to get this issue resolved quickly so that we have sufficient time to finalize our preliminary responses while ensuring
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`Lutron’s materials are properly protected.
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`We look forward to hearing back from you on this issue and proposal.
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`Kind Regards,
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`Cole Schofz P.C.
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`Marcella M. Bodner
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`Special Counsel
`25 Main Street | Hackensack, NJ | 07601
`Direct 201.525.6242 | Firm 201.489.3000 | Fax 201.678.6242 | mbodner@coleschotz.com_
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