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`The United States Patent and Trademark Office – Before the Patent Trial and Appeal Board
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`bluebird bio, Inc., Petitioner / Sloan Kettering Institute for Cancer Research, Patent Owner*
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`*San Rocco Therapeutics responded on behalf of Patent Owner
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`IPR2023-00070 (U.S. Patent No. 7,541,179)
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`IPR2023-00074 (U.S. Patent No. 8,058,061)
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`Oral Hearing: January 24, 2024
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`BLUEBIRD EXHIBIT 1069
`bluebird v. SKI
`IPR2023-00074
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`Representative Challenged Claims
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`’179 Patent
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`’061 Patent
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1001 (00070), 11:55-65
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1001 (00074), 11:56-67
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074 Pet. § VI.B
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`Instituted Grounds
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`’179 Patent
`(IPR2023-00070)
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`Ground 1
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`The May Thesis Anticipates Claims 1, 19, and 22
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`Ground 2
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`The May Article Anticipates Claims 1, 18, and 22
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`Ground 3
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`The May Article Renders Claims 1, 19, and 22 Obvious
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`Ground 4
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`The May Abstract Renders Claims 1, 10, 19, and 22 Obvious
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`Ground 1
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`The May Thesis Anticipates Claims 1, 2, 6-7, and 11
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`Ground 2
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`The May Thesis in View of Himanen Renders Claim 5 Obvious
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`’061 Patent
`(IPR2023-00074)
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`Ground 3
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`The May Article Anticipates Claims 1, 2, 6-7, and 11
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`Ground 4
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`The May Article Renders Claims 1, 2, 6-7, and 11 Obvious
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`Ground 5
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`The May Article in View of Himanen Renders Claim 5 Obvious
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`Ground 6
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`The May Abstract Renders Claims 1, 2, 6-8, 11, and 15 Obvious
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`Ground 7
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`The May Abstract in View of Himanen Renders Claim 5 Obvious
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074 Pet. § V
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`Agenda
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` Lack of written description support in the provisional applications
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` The May Article invalidity grounds
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` The May Abstract invalidity grounds
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` The May Thesis invalidity grounds
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`Agenda
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` Lack of written description support in the provisional applications
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` The May Article invalidity grounds
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` The May Abstract invalidity grounds
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` The May Thesis invalidity grounds
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`Challenged Claims Are Directed to a Vector
`with a Functional Globin and a Human β-globin LCR
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`’179 Patent
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074 Pet. § VI.B
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1001 (00070), 11:55-65, Fig. 1
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`SRT Asserts That the Claimed Functional Globin Genus Includes “Any” Globin
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`’179 Patent
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`Patent Owner Response
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1001 (00070), 11:55-65
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`• α (alpha)
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`• δ (delta)
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`• Human and other mammals
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`• β (beta)
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`• ε (epsilon)
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`• Mutations
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`•
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`γ (gamma)
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`See, e.g., POR, 33; Ex.1052, 87:15-17
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`See, e.g., Paper 27 (00070), 4
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § VI.C; POR § III.A; Reply § II; Ex. 1001
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`Provisionals Describe Only the Human β-globin Species
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`’861 Provisional
`filed Jun. 29, 2001
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`’852 Provisional
`filed Jul. 2, 2001
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`The term “functional globin” (or equivalent language) does not appear in the provisionals
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶ 55
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § VI.C; Reply § II; Ex. 10002 § VIII; Ex. 1034; Ex. 1035
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`See, e.g., Exs. 1034, 1035
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`Description of Claimed Functional Globin Genus
`Did Not Appear Until the ’221 Application (Filed July 1, 2002)
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`’179 Prosecution History
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § VI.C, Reply § II; Decision § II.D; Ex. 1032
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1032 at 241, 243, 245
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`Description of Claimed Functional Globin Genus
`Did Not Appear Until the ’221 Application (Filed July 1, 2002)
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`Page 3, lines 24-26 of the specification:
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`This description of the functional globin genus has no counterpart in the provisionals
`See, e.g., Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶ 54
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § VI.C, Reply § II; Decision § II.D; Ex. 1032
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1032 at 4-5
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`SRT’s Expert Did Not Determine the Scope of this Functional Globin Genus
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q.
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`A.
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`Sitting here today, do you have an estimate of
`how large that genus would be, the number of
`the members of the genus?
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`Yeah. I -- I would not be able to find an exact
`number on that.
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`Riley Declaration
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`See, e.g., Ex. 2056, ¶ 90
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 90:14-18
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`Q.
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`So is it your opinion that zeta-globin would also fall within the
`term "functional globin" for this case?
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`A.
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`I would say, I don't know.
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`* * *
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 88:21-89:6
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § II; Ex. 2056 § VIII.B; Ex. 1052
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`Both Experts Agreed That There Are Structural Differences Between Globin
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`Bungert Declaration
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶ 56;
`see also Ex. 2055, 193:3-25, 209:4-13
`(“you also have sequences in the protein that may interact with
`regulatory elements that could contribute different expression”)
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q. Do you know whether or not alpha-globin
`has a different regulator compared to
`beta-globin?
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`A. Yeah, alpha-globin is in a different
`genomic locus and is -- does have a
`separate control region.
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`* * *
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`Q. You agree that alpha-globin is encoded on
`a separate chromosome than beta-globin,
`right?
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`A.
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`I said that a few seconds ago.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 91:14-19, 92:1-11
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § VI.C, Reply § II; Ex. 1002 § VIII; Ex. 1052
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`Changes Required to Potentially Express
`Other Globin Are Not Described in Provisionals
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q.
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`You recognize that changes would have to be made to the TNS9
`vector to get it to express a different type of globin, correct?
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`A. At a minimum, you would certainly have to put in the correct
`coding sequence of the new globin.
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`Q. And possibly the promoter?
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`A. And possibly the promoter.
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`Q. And maybe some other elements in certain situations that are
`undefined?
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`Q. Or not? I mean, I'm asking your opinion here.
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`A.
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`It's unclear.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 57:2-18
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`Q. Okay. And to make sure I understand, these changes that we're
`describing, changing the coding sequence, changing the
`promoter, or these other potential changes that might need to
`be made, those are not described in the provisional application
`in this case?
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`A.
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`I would have to review the provisional application to give you an
`answer.
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`(Whereupon, Exhibit 1034, US Patent Provisional Application 60-
`301861, was identified.)
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`* * *
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`I'm not asking if it would be obvious to make the changes. What
`I'm asking is: Is it described in the provisional application?
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`If you don't know, that's fine.
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`I will say I don't know then.
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`Q.
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`Q.
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`A.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 57:19-58:5, 62:11-17
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § II; Ex. 2056 § VIII; Ex. 1052
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`The Experts Agreed That a POSA Would Have
`Needed to Experiment to Potentially Express Other Globin
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`Bluebird Expert Dr. Bungert
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q. Would you agree that if you substituted a
`different globin gene in for the ß-globin gene but
`left all of the rest of the sequence including the
`LCR, etc. the same, that you would get
`comparable levels of expression of that gene?
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`A. No, I would not say so.
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`* * *
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`A.
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`So I think scientifically, right scientifically we
`would have to test it. Scientifically you cannot
`make that prediction.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 2055, 188:14-21, 202:22-25;
`see also Ex. 2055, 193:3-25, 209:4-13
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`Q. Would the person of ordinary skill need to make
`other -- any other change apart from changing
`the globin in the vector?
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`A.
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`It's hard to know. That's a speculative.
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`Q. And why is that?
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`A. Well, you wouldn't know until you did the
`experiment.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 49:8-15
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § II; Ex. 2056 §V III; Ex. 2055; Ex. 1052
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`SRT’s Expert Emphasized the Unpredictability of Making Changes to the Vector
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`Riley Declaration
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`See, e.g., Ex. 2056 ¶¶ 89, 153
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`Changing the promoter and globin coding sequence implicates 1,800 bp of the vector
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1001 (00070), Fig. 1
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1022, 2
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § II; Ex. 2056 § VIII; Ex. 1052; Ex. 1001; Ex. 1022
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`SRT’s Own Evidence Demonstrates the Difficulty of
`Attempting to Express Other Globin with β-Globin Regulatory Elements
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`McCune
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § II; POR § III.A; Ex. 2056 § VIII; Ex. 2079
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`See, e.g., Ex. 2079, 1
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`SRT’s Expert Could Not Comment on Specific Therapies
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`Bungert Declaration
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶¶ 56-57
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q. Do you agree that a POSA would not have viewed a vector expressing alpha-globin as a therapy for beta thalassemia or
`sickle cell disease?
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`A. Yeah, I'm not a physician, so I'm hesitant to comment on specific therapies, but I --
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`Q.
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`If you don't know, that's fine?
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`A. Yeah, I don't know.
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § II; Ex. 1002 § VIII; Ex. 2056 §VIII; Ex. 1052
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 92:24-93:9
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`Challenged Claims to “β-globin” Also Lack Priority Because
`Provisionals Do Not Describe Mutants or Non-Human β-globin
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`’179 Patent
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`’061 Patent
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1001 (00070), 14:6-7
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1001 (00074), 12:14-15
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`Dependent claims cover functional genus of mutant and non-human β-globin
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`See, e.g., Decision, 24; POR, 28
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § VI.C; Reply § II; Ex. 10002 § VIII; Decision § II.D; POR § III.A; Ex. 1001
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`SRT’s Expert Could Not Determine Scope of Claimed “β-globin” Genus
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`Bungert Declaration
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`Riley Declaration
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`See, e.g., Ex. 2056, (00070) ¶ 95
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶ 58
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q. Out of these literally hundreds of reported mutations to the human beta-globin gene, how many fall within the scope of functional
`globin as described in the patent; if you made that determination?
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`A. Yeah. I would have to know which -- which of the mutations resulted in a functional globin and which ones did not.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 104:8-15
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § VI.C, Reply § II; Ex. 1002 § VIII; Ex. 2056 § VIII; Ex. 1052
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`Provisionals Describe Only Expression of Human (Not Mutant) β-globin
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`’852 Provisional
`filed Jul. 2, 2001
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`* * *
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`Bungert Declaration
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1035, 2-3
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶ 54
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, POR § III.A, Reply § II; Ex. 1002 § VIII; Ex. 1035
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`Inventors’ Publications Confirm TNS9 Encodes Human (Not Mutant) β-globin
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`Sadelain 2022
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`Sadelain 2009
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`Sadelain 2006
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1056, 71
`TNS9.3.55 and TNS9 encode the same “functional globin” (Ex.1066, 114:14-24)
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1057, 86, Table 1
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1058, 144
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § II; Ex. 1056; Ex. 1057; Ex. 1058
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`Agenda
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` Lack of written description support in the provisional applications
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` The May Article invalidity grounds
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` The May Abstract invalidity grounds
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` The May Thesis invalidity grounds
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`A POSA Would Have Been Motivated to
`Make the Vector Described in the May Article
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`May Article
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`SRT Response
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1005, 82, Fig. 1(b)
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`See, e.g., Paper 27 (00070), 62-63
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`Q.
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`This -- this article, the Exhibit 1005, represents a major advancement towards the genetic treatment of disorders such as hemoglobinopathies.
`Do you agree with that?
`Yes.
`A.
`Q. And do you agree this article, 1 -- Exhibit 1005, describes results that are nothing short of outstanding?
`A.
`I -- I would describe these results as outstanding.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 134:5-15, 135:16-136:9
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; POR § III.D; Ex. 1052
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`SRT Disputes Prior Art Disclosure of Only the Restriction Enzyme Limitations
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`’179 Patent
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`Claim element
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`Taught in May Article
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`Recombinant vector
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`Functional globin
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`3.2-kb LCR
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`HS2, HS3 and HS4
`spanning fragments
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1001 (00070), 11:55-65
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`Providing expression in vivo
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074 Pet. § VI.B; Ex. 1001
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`A POSA Would Have Used Figure 1a as a
`Guide to Arrive at the Claimed HS Fragments
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`May Article
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; POR § III.B; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII; Ex. 2056 § XII.1; Ex. 1005
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1005, 82, Fig. 1(a)
`See also Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶113
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`Figure 1a Provided the Proper Proportionality of the HS Fragments
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`May Article
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`Inventor Dr. Sadelain
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`Q. So what is it intended to convey?
`A.
`It shows the proportionality between the fragment in
`RNS1 and the fragment in TNS9.
`Q. The proper what?
`A. Proportionality.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1066, 95:13-16, 98:24-99:13
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1005, 82, Fig. 1(a)
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q. Do you agree at best that the Figure 1a could provide a
`rough guideline to a person of ordinary skill to make
`the TNS9 vector?
`A. As a -- sure.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 2052, 144:6-10
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; POR § III.B; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII; Ex. 2056 § XII.1; Ex. 1005
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`A POSA Would Have Been Able to Map
`All Possible Restriction Sites for HS2, HS3, and HS4
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`’179 Prosecution
`History
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`Bungert Declaration
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1032, 302
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶ 107
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII; Ex. 1016; Ex. 1019; Ex. 1032
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`Restriction Enzymes Were Well Characterized and Commercially Available
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`* * *
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`* * *
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`* * *
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`Roberts 1987
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § VI.A; Ex. 1002 § V; Ex. 1019
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1019, r192-93, r198-99, r207, 22
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`A POSA Would Have Been Able to Replicate the Results of the May Article
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q. Do you agree or disagree that one of the goals of a scientific article is to provide information such that
`others in the field can reproduce or build on what's described in the paper?
`* * *
`A. Stated that way -- yes, I mean, a goal of publication is to provide a base from which people can move
`the field forward.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 140:14-22
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`Nature Reporting
`Standards
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III.A; Ex. 1052; Ex. 1066; Ex. 1055
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`Nature Requires Authors to Identify Conditions for Use of Methods and Materials
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`Inventor Dr. Sadelain
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`Q. Do you believe that you complied with the Nature guidelines when submitting your Nature article for
`publication in 2000?
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`A. Yes, because the -- if I didn't, reviewers or editors would have pointed that out to me.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 140:14-22
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`Nature Guide
`to Authors
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1054, 7
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III.A; Ex. 1052; Ex. 1066; Ex. 1054
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`SRT’s Expert Confirmed Testing Would Not
`Have Been Needed for a Reasonable Expectation of Success
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`Q.
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`Can a person of ordinary skill have a reasonable expectation of expression in
`vivo according to Claim 1 without testing the vector?
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`A.
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`Yeah. I think a POSA could expect that it would work.
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`* * *
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 66:16-22
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Ex. 1052
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`Dr. Bungert’s Analysis Confirmed That a POSA
`Would Have Been Able to Arrive at the Claimed HS Fragments
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`Bungert Declaration
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶ 117
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`Dr. Bungert’s Analysis Confirmed That a POSA
`Would Have Been Able to Arrive at the Claimed HS Fragments
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII; Ex. 1050
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1050, 1
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`Dr. Bungert’s Analysis Confirmed That a POSA
`Would Have Been Able to Arrive at the Claimed HS Fragments
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII; Ex. 1050
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`Dr. Bungert’s Analysis Confirmed That a POSA
`Would Have Been Able to Arrive at the Claimed HS Fragments
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII; Ex. 1050
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶115
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`SRT Failed to Establish That the May Article
`Taught Away from Using Restriction Enzymes
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q. So it's silent on whether or not the construct was made using PCR or
`restriction enzymes?
`A. I thought that's what I just said but, yes.
`* * *
`Q. Right. So the person of ordinary skill could make it either using PCR or with
`restriction enzymes if they wanted to make it
`A. Sure
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 78:10-14; 78:20-23
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`“[M]ere disclosure of alternative designs does not teach away”
`See, e.g., In re Fulton, 391 F.3d 1195, 1201 (Fed. Cir. 2004)
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Decision § II.H.1; Ex. 1052
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`Prior Art Demonstrated Preference for Using
`Restriction Enzymes When Creating Expression Constructs
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`Sadelain 1995
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`Ellis 1997
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1022, 2
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1022, 3
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`bluebird Expert Dr. Bungert
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`A. With respect to this particular situation, a POSA, or a person of ordinary skill in the art, would have looked at this
`publication, would have looked at previous publications and would have assumed that in this particular
`situation restriction enzymes were used.
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; POR § III.B; Ex. 2055; Ex. 1022
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`A POSA Would Have Been Discouraged from Using PCR
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`Inventor Dr. Sadelain
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`Bluebird Expert Dr. Bungert
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`A. My recollection is that Stefano, in particular,
`liked PCR, which made me nervous because
`we always have to sequence to make sure
`there's no PCR mistake.
`* * *
`A. Because it's notorious that PCR imperfect
`and can make a mistake.
`
`See, e.g., Ex. 1066, 40:14-17, 41:3-4
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`A. The advantage of restriction enzymes is that
`you don't introduce mutations. If you use
`PCR there’s a possibility that you introduce
`mutations. Nucleotide changes.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 2055, 32:24-33:4
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q. Okay. And my question is: When it comes to
`Vent DNA polymerase, did that eliminate the
`concern of mutations?
`A. No.
`
`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 72:1-4
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; POR § III.B; Ex. 2055; Ex. 1066; Ex. 1052; Ex. 2055
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`A POSA Would Have Been Discouraged from Using PCR
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`Patent Owner Response
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`See, e.g., Paper 27 (00070), 42, n.4
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; POR § III.B; Decision § H.1; Ex. 1052
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`SRT’s Expert Had No Experience Designing
`LCR Fragments at the Time of the Invention
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q. Have you -- as of 2000/2001, have you ever had hands-on experience designing
`LCR fragments for expression constructs?
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`A. At the time of the invention. Is that what -- could you clarify that?
`
`Q. Yes.
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`A. No. I had -- had not used, you know, specific LCRs.
`
`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 30:22-31:4
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § III.B; Ex. 1002 § I; Ex. 2002 § I; Ex. 2056 § I; Ex. 1052
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`A POSA Would Have Been Aware of Variations in Reported Fragment Lengths
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`Bungert Declaration
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`bluebird Expert Dr. Bungert
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶ 113, n. 6
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`Q. Right, but didn't do five or ten, right, you did plus or minus 20?
`A. I mentioned before, just to be conservative I just added five extra base pairs because there could be other circumstances where you allow this
`window. So this is how I analyzed these fragments and identified fragments that were similar to the ones drawn to scale by the May, et al. article.
`* * *
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`Q. So within 20, 15 plus 5 is 20?
`A. Yes, in the May article where we had the positional information and we were able to generate a limited number of fragments based on that
`information.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 2055, 133:8-14, 136:5-11, 138:20-25, 169:5-13
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII; Ex. 2055
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`The Named Inventors Recognized Variations of Reported Fragment Lengths
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`Inventor Dr. May
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`Inventor Dr. Sadelain
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`A. You run that on a gel, and you get an approximate size
`of that fragment, not a specific size of that fragment,
`but you know that you're in the ballpark.
`
`Q. So depending on who is reporting the length, you could
`get slight variations?
`A. You could get these tiny, tiny, tiny variations, yes.
`
`See, e.g., Ex. 1053, 56:1-4
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1066, 95:13-16
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`Q.
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`If you asked two researchers in your lab to measure a
`HS2 fragment of the human beta-globin LCR, would you
`expect them to get the exact same lengths, or is it
`possible they would have slightly different lengths even
`though they are looking at the exact same fragment?
`A. Depending on how you measure it, there's that
`potential.
`
`See, e.g., Ex. 1053, 71:8-17
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`Inventor Dr. Rivella
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`A. Different labs may have different results. The same lab
`may have the same results or different results in two
`different experiments.
`
`See, e.g., Ex. 1051, 77:8-10
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Ex. 1051; Ex. 1053; Ex. 1066
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`The Applicant Even Reported Different Lengths
`for the Same HS Fragments (Within +/– 20 bp)
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1001 (00070), 3:23-26
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`’179 Patent
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`’179 Prosecution
`History
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`HS2 is 17 bp shorter –– HS3 is 13 bp longer –– HS4 is 11 bp shorter
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`See, e.g., Ex.1032, 309 (citing Ex.1032, 322-23, ¶¶38, 44, and 46)
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII; Ex. 1001; Ex. 1032
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`Restriction Enzymes That Cleave Outside the Restriction Site
`Lead to Unwieldly Fragments, Which a POSA Would Have Avoided
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`Roberts
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`* * *
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`SRT Expert Dr. Riley
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`Q. You previously agreed when discussing
`with your counsel that the BsgI restriction
`enzyme cleaves the DNA outside
`the restriction site; is that correct?
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`A.
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`I did.
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`* * *
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`See, e.g., Ex.1026, 341
`
`Q. Okay. And do you agree that [AclWI]
`restriction enzyme also cleaves the
`DNA outside the restriction site?
`
`A.
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`I do.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1052, 154:25-155:4, 156:1-4
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII; Ex. 1050; Ex. 1026; Ex. 1052
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`Restriction Enzymes That Cleave Outside the Restriction Site Lead to
`Unwieldly Fragments, Which a POSA Would Have Avoided
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`Bluebird Expert Dr. Bungert
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`Bluebird Expert Dr. Bungert
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`Q. Okay. But you wouldn't have
`excluded them?
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`Q. And why would they have excluded
`them?
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`A.
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`I would -- I cannot recall ever
`having used enzymes that cut
`outside the restriction enzyme site.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 2055, 53:10-12
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`A. Because of the undefined
`sequences that you may get into or
`additional sequences that you may
`not want to include.
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`See, e.g., Ex. 2055, 54:9-14
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.C; Reply § III; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII; Ex. 1050; Ex. 2055
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`Dr. Riley’s Analysis Confirmed That a POSA
`Would Have Been Able to Identify the Claimed HS4 Fragment
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`Petitioner Reply
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`See, e.g., Paper 35 (00070), 20
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § III.E; POR § III.B; Ex. 2056 § XI.A
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`After Removing Omitted Restriction Enzymes, Only 2 HS4 Fragments Remain
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`Petitioner Reply
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`BsgI and AclWI cleave outside restriction site, and PstI and BanII are frequent cutters
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`See, e.g., Paper 35 (00070), 20
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § III.E; POR § III.B; Ex. 2056 § XI.A
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`Dr. Riley’s Analysis Confirmed That a POSA
`Would Have Been Able to Identify the Claimed HS3 Fragment
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`Petitioner Reply
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`See, e.g., Paper 35 (00070), 21
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § III.E; POR § III.B; Ex. 2056 § XI.A
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`After Removing Omitted Restriction Enzymes, Only 4 HS3 Fragments Remain
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`Petitioner Reply
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`Duplicative HindIII-BamHI entry, and BsgI cuts outside the restriction site
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`See, e.g., Paper 35 (00070), 21
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § III.E; POR § III.B; Ex. 2056 § XI.A
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`Dr. Riley’s Analysis Confirmed That a POSA
`Would Have Been Able to Identify the Claimed HS2 Fragment
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`Petitioner Reply
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`See, e.g., Paper 35 (00070), 23
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § III.E; POR § III.B; Ex. 2056 § XI.A
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`After Removing Omitted Restriction Enzymes, Only 1 HS2 Fragment Remains
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`Petitioner Reply
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`MaeII, TaeI, and SnaBI cut in the same position, EcoICRI and SacI cut in the same position
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`See, e.g., Paper 35 (00070), 23
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § III.E; POR § III.B; Ex. 1002 §§ XI-XII
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`Isoschizomers Cut In the Same Location
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`Roberts
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, PO Sur-reply § III; Ex. 1052; Ex. 1026
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`Agenda
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` Lack of written description support in the provisional applications
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` The May Article invalidity grounds
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` The May Abstract invalidity grounds
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` The May Thesis invalidity grounds
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`The May Abstract Taught a Lentiviral Vector With
`a β-Globin and 3.2 kb LCR with HS2, HS3, and HS4 Fragments
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`May Abstract
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1006, 248
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.D; Reply § IV; POR § III.C
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`The May Abstract Taught a Lentiviral Vector With
`a β-Globin and 3.2 kb LCR with HS2, HS3, and HS4 Fragments
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`May Abstract
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`Inventor Dr. Sadelain
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`Q.
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`A.
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`Q.
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`A.
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`Q.
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`A.
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`Q.
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`But you did disclose that you had used a lentivirus to create your vector?
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`Correct.
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`And you did describe in the May abstract that you used human beta-
`globin gene linked to an LCR?
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`Correct.
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`And you did describe in the May abstract that the LCR is 3.2 kilobase in
`length?
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`Correct.
`
`And you did describe in the May abstract that the LCR includes
`hypersensitive sites 2, 3, and 4?
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`A.
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`Correct.
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.D; Reply § IV; POR § III.C
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`SRT Disputes Prior Art Disclosure of Only the Restriction Enzyme Limitations
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`’179 Patent
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`Claim element
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`Taught in May Abstract
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`Recombinant vector
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`Functional globin
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`3.2-kb LCR
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`HS2, HS3 and HS4
`spanning fragment
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1001 (00070), 11:55-65
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`Providing expression in vivo
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074 Pet. § VI.B
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`SRT Describes the Invention as the Use of a
`Lentiviral Vector, Which the May Abstract Taught
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`SRT Response
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`See, e.g., Paper 27 (00070), 32
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`See, e.g., Paper 27 (00070), 64
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.D; Reply § IV; POR § III.C
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`Dr. Bungert’s Analysis Confirms the
`Claimed HS Fragments Would Have Been Obvious
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`Bungert Declaration
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`Ellis 1997
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1022, 2
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`Bouhassira 1997
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1002 (00070) ¶¶ 150-51
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.D; Reply § IV; Ex. 1002 § XIII
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1023, 2
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`Dr. Bungert Shows 13 Possible HS2 Fragments a POSA Would Have Considered
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.D; Reply § IV; Ex. 1002 § XIII
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`Dr. Bungert Shows 11 Possible HS3 Fragments a POSA Would Have Considered
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.D; Reply § IV; Ex. 1002 § XIII
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`Dr. Bungert Shows 11 Possible HS4 Fragments a POSA Would Have Considered
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.D; Reply § IV; Ex. 1002 § XIII
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`SRT Asserts Literal Infringement of Prior Art
`HS Fragments That Do Not Have the Claimed Restriction Sites
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`SRT’s Infringement Contentions:
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`Ellis 1997
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1064, 4
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1015, 2
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`“That which infringes, if later, anticipates, if earlier”
`See, e.g., Schering Corp. v. Geneva Pharmaceuticals, 339 F.3d 1373, 1379-80 (Fed. Cir. 2003)
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § IV; POR § III.C; Ex. 1064
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`The Inventors Could Not Confirm That TNS9
`Was Made Using the Claimed Restriction Enzymes
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`Inventor Dr. May
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`Inventor Dr. Rivella
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`Inventor Dr. Sadelain
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`A.
`
`Q. Are you aware of any evidence to
`show the claimed restriction
`enzymes were used to create
`TNS9?
`I don't have any recollection of
`how these were put together.
`Q. Were the claimed restriction
`enzymes that we see in Claim 1 of
`your '179 patent used to make the
`LCR fragment of the TNS9 vector?
`* * *
`I don't -- I don't recall.
`
`A.
`
`Q. What I'm asking is: The TNS9 vector
`that's described in your May
`Nature article, sitting here today,
`do you know whether or not that
`was made using the claimed
`restriction enzymes that are
`claimed in your patent?
`I don't remember.
`
`A.
`
`See, e.g., Ex.1051, 122:8-14
`
`Q. The claimed restriction enzymes
`for HS2, do you know whether or
`not those claimed restriction
`enzymes were used to make the
`HS2 fragment of the TNS9 vector?
`A. They likely were, as I said, because
`there's sometimes PCR, sometimes
`this. I don’t remember if -- on the
`day where the first TNS9 was
`constructed at some point in '90s,
`how that was performed.
`
`See, e.g., Ex. 1066, 37:7-15
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`See, e.g., Ex.1053, 61:3-12
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Reply § IV; POR § III.C; Ex. 1064
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`Agenda
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` Lack of written description support in the provisional applications
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` The May Article invalidity grounds
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` The May Abstract invalidity grounds
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` The May Thesis invalidity grounds
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`The May Thesis Anticipates the Challenged Claims
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`May Thesis
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1004, 54
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`See, e.g., Ex. 1004, 40
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.A; Ex. 1002 § X; Ex. 1004; Ex. 1001
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`It Is Undisputed that the May Thesis Is “by Others”
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`’179 Petition
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`See, e.g., Paper 1 (00070), 18, n.7
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`See, e.g., 00070, 00074, Pet. § X.A; Ex. 1002 § X
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`The May Thesis is dated May 2001
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`Inventor Dr. May
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`Inventor Dr. Sadelain
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`Q. Okay. And you stated before you defended
`your thesis in January of 2001?
`
`Q. Chad May went on to publish his thesis after the
`defense; is that common practice?
`
`A. Yes.
`
`* * *
`
`Q. You submitted your thesis for publication
`prior to your graduation in May 2001?
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`A.
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`I believe so.
`
`See, e.g., Ex. 1053, 40:23-25, 42:7-9
`
`A.
`
`It is the practice, after the defense, the thesis
`needs to be approved which takes a certain
`amount of time, variable, weeks to months.
`Then it is forwarded to the University, which in
`this case is Cornell. They have some processing
`to do. And at some point it is forwarded, I
`believe, to the National Lib