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`IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
`FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF MISSOURI
`ST. JOSEPH DIVISION
`_____________________________
`PROVISUR TECHNOLOGIES,
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`INC.,
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`Plaintiff, )
`) No. 5:21-cv-06113
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`and
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`WEBER, INC., ET AL.,
`Counter-Plaintiff, )
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`v.
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`PROVISUR TECHNOLOGIES,
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`INC.,
`Counter-Defendant. )
`_____________________________)
`*CONFIDENTIAL*
`VIDEO DEPOSITION OF KEVIN DUESTERHAUS
`February 9, 2024
`9:03 a.m.
`Reporter: Mark Arndt, CSR, CCR, RPR
`CSR No. 084-004711
`CCR No. 1398
`____________________________________________________
`DIGITAL EVIDENCE GROUP
`1730 M Street, NW, Suite 812
`Washington, D.C. 20036
`(202) 232-0646
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`WEBER, INC., ET AL.,
`Defendants.
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`Provisur EX1057
`U.S. Patent No. 9,457,487
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`IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
`FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF MISSOURI
`ST. JOSEPH DIVISION
`_____________________________
`PROVISUR TECHNOLOGIES,
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`INC.,
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`Plaintiff, )
`) No. 5:21-cv-06113
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`and
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`WEBER, INC., ET AL.,
`Counter-Plaintiff, )
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`v.
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`PROVISUR TECHNOLOGIES,
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`INC.,
`Counter-Defendant. )
`_____________________________)
`*CONFIDENTIAL*
`VIDEO DEPOSITION OF KEVIN DUESTERHAUS
`February 9, 2024
`9:03 a.m.
`Reporter: Mark Arndt, CSR, CCR, RPR
`CSR No. 084-004711
`CCR No. 1398
`____________________________________________________
`DIGITAL EVIDENCE GROUP
`1730 M Street, NW, Suite 812
`Washington, D.C. 20036
`(202) 232-0646
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`www.DigitalEvidenceGroup.comDigital Evidence Group C'rt 2024
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`WEBER, INC., ET AL.,
`Defendants.
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`Provisur EX1057
`U.S. Patent No. 9,457,487
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` [9:03 a.m.]
` THE VIDEOGRAPHER: This is the video
`deposition of Kevin Duesterhaus in the matter of
`Provisur Technologies, Incorporated, versus Weber
`Incorporated, et al, and Weber Incorporated, et al,
`versus Provisur Technologies, Incorporated.
` Today's date is February 9th, 2024, and the time
`is 9:03 AM Central Time. My name is James Arndt, and I
`am the videographer. The court reporter is Mark Arndt.
` Counselors, will you please introduce yourselves
`and your affiliations and the witness will be sworn.
` MR. BABBITT: Good morning. My name's
`Mike Babbitt, and I'm with Mitch Feldhake. Both of us
`are from Willkie Farr & Gallagher, and we represent the
`plaintiff Provisur.
` Also with Taylor Concannon Hausmann from Husch
`Blackwell also representing Provisur.
` MR. HORTON: And good morning. Hunter
`Horton with Erise IP on behalf of Weber.
` MR. VU: Khoa Vu with Erise IP on behalf
`of Weber.
` MR. LEIKER: And Jason Leiker with Levy
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` The witness, KEVIN DUESTERHAUS, first having
`been duly sworn, testified as follows:
` EXAMINATION
`BY MR. BABBITT:
` Q. Good morning, Kevin.
` A. Good morning, Mike.
` Q. Welcome back.
` A. Thank you.
` Q. Can you please state your full name and
`job title for the record?
` A. Kevin Duesterhaus with Weber. I'm a key
`account manager.
` Q. And you've worked for Weber for about 20
`years?
` A. Going on close to 22 now.
` Q. 22. Congratulations.
` You remember I deposed you back in January of
`2022?
` A. Yes.
` Q. And you recall you were under oath during
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`your previous deposition?
` A. Yes.
` Q. Did you tell the truth during your
`previous deposition?
` A. Yes, I believe I did.
` Q. You told me back then that you been
`deposed in an employment case once before.
` Do you remember that issue?
` A. Yes, I do.
` Q. Do you know the name of the employee that
`was involved?
` A. That employee was
` Q. And what was his role?
` A. He was a service technician at the time.
` Q. Do you recall the nature of his
`allegations?
` A. I believe it had to do with not -- I think
`it was -- really, I'm not sure. I'd have to go back
`and look to see exactly what the nature was.
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`it's -- to me it's a big selling point on a Textor
`slicer.
` Q. Do you think Weber's removable conveyor
`cassette drives the sale of slicing lines that include
`that feature?
` MR. HORTON: Object to form.
` A. I think it's a big benefit. It's a very
`open design machine and quick to disassemble. I think
`that's important for some of my customers.
`BY MR. BABBITT:
` Q. A customer's not buying a slicing line
`because of the removal of conveyor cassette, though,
`are they?
` MR. HORTON: Object to form.
` A. I don't know about that.
`BY MR. BABBITT:
` Q. You're not aware of any Weber customer
`that's bought an entire slicing line because of a
`removable conveyor cassette, are you?
` MR. HORTON: Object to form.
` A. I don't -- in the end I don't know what
`decisions made them purchase that machine.
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`BY MR. BABBITT:
` Q. You don't know why your customers buy your
`machines?
` MR. HORTON: Object to form.
` A. I give them a lot of reasons to buy our
`machines, but the overwhelming reason, I'm not sure.
`BY MR. BABBITT:
` Q. Okay.
` So in the end it's just hard for you to say why
`a customer buys a slicing line?
` MR. HORTON: Object to form.
` A. Could be maybe they like me. I don't
`know, but I think it's pretty safe to say that the
`overall design of the machine, including the removable
`cassettes, is probably a good reason to purchase that
`machine.
`BY MR. BABBITT:
` Q. Have you ever had a customer buy a slicing
`line because of a derinder product?
` MR. HORTON: Object to form.
` A. Buy a slicing line because of a derinder
`product? I don't know. I've never sold one because of
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` C E R T I F I C A T E
` I, Mark Arndt, a Certified Shorthand Reporter
`and Certified Court Reporter, do hereby certify that
`KEVIN DUESTERHAUS, prior to the commencement of the
`examination, was sworn by me on February 9, 2024, to
`testify the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the
`truth.
` I DO FURTHER CERTIFY that the foregoing is a
`true and accurate transcript of the proceedings as
`taken stenographically by and before me at the time,
`place and on the date hereinbefore set forth.
` I DO FURTHER CERTIFY that I am neither a
`relative nor employee nor attorney nor counsel of any
`of the parties to this action, and that I am neither a
`relative nor employee of such attorney or counsel, and
`that I am not financially interested in this action.
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` MARK ARNDT, CSR, CCR, RPR
` CSR NO. 084-004711
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` Kevin Duesterhaus, c/o
` Erise IP
` 7015 College Boulevard, Suite 700
` Overland Park, KS 66211
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` Case: Provisur Technologies, Inc., v. Weber, Inc., et al.
` Date of deposition: February 9, 2024
` Deponent: Kevin Duesterhaus
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` Please be advised that the transcript in the above
` referenced matter is now complete and ready for signature.
` The deponent may come to this office to sign the transcript,
` a copy may be purchased for the witness to review and sign,
` or the deponent and/or counsel may waive the option of
` signing. Please advise us of the option selected.
` Please forward the errata sheet and the original signed
` signature page to counsel noticing the deposition, noting the
` applicable time period allowed for such by the governing
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` Copyright 2024 Digital Evidence Group
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` SIGNATURE PAGE
` Case: Provisur Technologies, Inc., v. Weber, Inc., et al.
` Witness Name: Kevin Duesterhaus
` Deposition Date: February 9, 2024
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` I do hereby acknowledge that I have read
` and examined the foregoing pages
` of the transcript of my deposition and that:
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` (Check appropriate box):
` ( ) The same is a true, correct and
` complete transcription of the answers given by
` me to the questions therein recorded.
` ( ) Except for the changes noted in the
` attached Errata Sheet, the same is a true,
` correct and complete transcription of the
` answers given by me to the questions therein
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