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`571.272.7822 Filed: July 25, 2018
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`BESTWAY (USA), INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`INTEX MARKETING LTD.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case PGR2017-00003
`Patent 9,254,240 B2
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`Before KEN B. BARRETT, FRANCES L. IPPOLITO, and
`KEVIN W. CHERRY, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`BARRETT, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Denying Patent Owner’s Request for a Sur-reply and
`Granting Petitioner’s Request for Oral Argument
`37 C.F.R. §§ 42.5, 42.70
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`Patent 9,254,240 B2
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`Procedural Posture
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`In the original Institution Decision, a post-grant review was instituted
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`on Petitioner’s challenge of claims 1–7 and 17 under 35 U.S.C. § 103 as
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`unpatentable over Peterson and Fireman (“Ground 1”), but a trial was not
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`instituted as to Petitioner’s obviousness challenge of claims 18–22 and 30
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`based on Peterson, Fireman, and Guan ’797 (“Ground 2”), or Petitioner’s
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`obviousness challenge of claims 18–22 based on Peterson, Fireman, Guan
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`’797, and Wang ’615 (“Ground 3”). Paper 9. An oral argument directed to
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`Ground 1 was conducted on February 5, 2018. On May 2, 2018, we
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`modified our institution decision to institute on all of the challenged claims
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`and all of the grounds presented in the Petition. Paper 30; see Guidance on
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`the Impact of SAS1 on AIA Trial Proceedings (April 26, 2018).2
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`Additional briefing regarding Grounds 2 and 3 was authorized.
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`Paper 33. We ordered the parties to file, after the filing of Petitioner’s Reply
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`concerning Grounds 2 and 3, “a joint submission setting forth their
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`position(s) on any proposed modifications to the schedule and the
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`proceeding prior to the issuance of a Final Written Decision on all claims
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`and grounds challenged in the Petition.” Id. It is that joint submission
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`(Paper 44) that is before us now. In that submission, each party makes a
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`request. We deny Patent Owner’s request to file a sur-reply to Petitioner’s
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`1 SAS Inst., Inc. v. Iancu, 138 S. Ct. 1348 (2018).
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`2 Available at https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/patent-
`trial-and-appeal-board/trials/guidance-impact-sas-aia-trial.
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`Supplemental Reply and we grant Petitioner’s request for a second oral
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`argument.
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`Patent Owner’s Request for a Sur-reply
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`In the latest round of briefing—concerning Grounds 2 and 3—Patent
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`Owner, in Paper 34, opted to rely on its arguments set forth in the
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`Preliminary Response, and Petitioner filed a Supplement Reply thereto
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`(Paper 41). Patent Owner requests that it be allowed ten business days to
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`“submit a sur-reply to address new arguments raised in Petitioner’s Reply,
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`including Petitioner’s characterization of the asserted grounds.” Paper 44
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`(Joint Submission regarding further proceedings). Petitioner opposes this
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`request. Id.
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`The Board will determine for itself whether arguments in Petitioner’s
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`Supplemental Reply are outside the appropriate scope for a reply and
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`whether Petitioner mischaracterize the grounds set forth in the Petition, and,
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`if so, we will not consider those arguments. Because we will not consider
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`new arguments from Petitioner, there is no need for Patent Owner to address
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`those arguments. Accordingly, Patent Owner’s request to submit a sur-reply
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`is denied. We note that Patent Owner will have the opportunity to respond
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`to Petitioner’s arguments regarding Grounds 2 and 3 at the oral argument.
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`Oral Argument
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`Petitioner requests a second oral argument in this case, pursuant to 37
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`C.F.R. § 42.70(a), to address Grounds 2 and 3. Papers 43, 44. Petitioner
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`requests fifteen minutes to present its arguments. Paper 43. Patent Owner
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`believes oral argument is unnecessary. Paper 44. In response to a query
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`from the Board, the parties submitted via email a list of dates and times
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`when both parties are available for a short, telephonic conference.
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`We grant the request for oral argument and further order that the
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`argument will be conducted telephonically.
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`The telephonic hearing will commence at 11:00 AM ET, on
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`Wednesday, August 1, 2018. Counsel will participate by telephone and
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`will be provided with the call-in number prior to the date of the hearing.
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`The hearing will be open to the public, on the ninth floor of Madison
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`Building East, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria, Virginia, for in-person
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`attendance that will be accommodated on a first-come, first-served basis.
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`The Board will provide a court reporter, and the reporter’s transcript will
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`constitute the official record of the hearings.
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`Each party will have a total of fifteen (15) minutes to present
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`arguments. Petitioner bears the ultimate burden of proof that Patent
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`Owner’s patent claims at issue are unpatentable. Thus, Petitioner will
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`proceed first to present its case with respect to the challenged patent claims
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`and to Grounds 2 and 3. Thereafter, Patent Owner may respond to
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`Petitioner’s arguments. Petitioner may reserve some of its argument time to
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`respond to Patent Owner’s presentation.
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`Because an oral argument concerning Ground 1 has been completed,
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`arguments at this second hearing will be limited to Grounds 2 and 3 as they
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`are set forth in the Petition.
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`The parties are reminded that the presenter must identify clearly and
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`specifically each demonstrative exhibit (e.g., by slide or screen number)
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`referenced during the hearing to ensure the clarity and accuracy of the
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`reporter’s transcript and the ability of the judges and counsel participating
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`telephonically to closely follow the presenter’s arguments. Additionally, the
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`parties are requested to provide a courtesy copy of any demonstrative
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`exhibits to the Board by emailing them to Trials@uspto.gov no later than 4
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`pm ET on Tuesday, July 31, 2018.
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`Demonstrative exhibits are to be served on the opposing party no later
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`than Monday, July 30, 2018, and are to be filed no later than the time of the
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`oral argument. It is preferred that the demonstrative exhibits be filed before
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`5 pm ET on July 30, 2018, to ensure the judges and court reporter have
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`access to those in advance of the hearing.
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`The Board asks that the parties attempt to resolve objections to the
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`demonstratives, and, if any objections cannot be resolved, the parties may
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`raise those objections with the Board at the hearing. The Board may reserve
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`ruling on the objections until after the oral argument. The parties may refer
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`to St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Div., Inc. v. The Board of Regents of the
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`University of Michigan, IPR2013-00041 (PTAB Jan. 27, 2014) (Paper 65)
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`regarding the appropriate content of demonstrative exhibits.
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`The Board expects lead counsel for each party to be present
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`telephonically at the hearing, although lead or back-up counsel of record
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`may make the presentation. If either party anticipates that its lead counsel
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`will not attend the oral argument, the party is to notify the Board, via email
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`to Trials@uspto.gov, no later than two business days prior to the oral
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`hearing.
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`The parties are reminded that, at the oral argument, they “may rely
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`upon evidence that has been previously submitted in the proceeding and may
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`only present arguments relied upon in the papers previously submitted.”
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`Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, 77 Fed. Reg. 48,756, 48,768
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`(Aug. 14, 2012). “No new evidence or arguments may be presented at the
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`oral argument.” Id.
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`Accordingly, it is
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`ORDERED that Patent Owner’s request to file a sur-reply to
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`Petitioner’s supplemental reply brief is denied;
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`FURTHER ORDERED that Petitioner’s request for a second oral
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`argument is granted; and
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`FURTHER ORDERED that a telephonic oral argument will
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`commence at 11:00 AM ET, on Wednesday, August 1, 2018, and that the
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`hearing will be open to the public on the ninth floor of Madison Building
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`East, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria, Virginia.
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`For PETITIONER:
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`Michael Chu
`mchu@mwe.com
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`Brian Jones
`bajones@mwe.com
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`For PATENT OWNER:
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`Trevor Carter
`Trevor.carter@faegrebd.com
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`Andrew McCoy
`Andrew.mccoy.ptab@faegrebd.com
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