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`IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
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`FOR THE ELEVENTH CIRCUIT
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`No. 16-11358
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`D.C. Docket No. 1:14-cr-00039-WLS-TQL-1
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`UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
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` Plaintiff - Appellee,
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`EDDIE LEE PERRY,
`CHAD RAGIN,
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` Defendants - Appellants.
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`Appeals from the United States District Court
`for the Middle District of Georgia
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`(September 29, 2021)
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`Before GRANT and MARCUS, Circuit Judges, and AXON,* District Judge.
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`MARCUS, Circuit Judge:
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`In 2014, Eddie Lee Perry and Chad Ragin along with seven other co-
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`defendants were indicted by a federal grand jury on numerous charges related to
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`their involvement in a substantial multi-year, multi-state drug distribution
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`organization operating primarily in southern Georgia. The core charge was that
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`Perry, Ragin, and the others conspired to possess with intent to distribute in excess
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`of five kilograms of cocaine and in excess of 280 grams of cocaine base. The
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`charged conspiracy ran from January 2010 until the end of 2013. As part of an
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`extended investigation, and with a series of court-ordered wiretaps in hand, the
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`government intercepted thousands of cellular phone calls involving Perry, Ragin,
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`and the other conspirators. Many of these conversations involved coded
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`discussions about drugs. Some of the calls expressly referenced “coke jewel,”
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`“powder,” and something “for the nose.” During the trial, the government
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`introduced 100 of the calls through the testimony of its case agent, DEA task force
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`officer Kevin Lee. The government also presented testimony from sixteen other
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`witnesses and introduced Rule 404(b) evidence of other crimes, wrongs, and acts
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`* Honorable Annemarie Axon, United States District Judge for the Northern District of Alabama,
`sitting by designation.
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`against both Perry and Ragin. After seven days of trial, the jury convicted Perry
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`and Ragin on all counts.
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`In this consolidated appeal, Perry presents multiple challenges to his
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`convictions, while Ragin attacks his sentence on several grounds. Perry focuses
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`primarily on agent Lee’s testimony, arguing that the district court erroneously
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`admitted it because Lee was not properly qualified as an expert, and that, in any
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`event, the opinion testimony improperly blurred the line between expert and lay
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`witness testimony and drew impermissible inferences for the jury. But after a
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`thorough review of an extensive trial record, we are satisfied that Lee was properly
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`qualified as an expert in interpreting code words for drugs, and that Perry has
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`failed to establish that he was substantially prejudiced by any offending comments
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`Lee offered. Similarly, we conclude that Ragin’s challenges to his sentence are
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`without merit. We affirm.
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`In early 2013, Drug Enforcement Administration and local law enforcement
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`agencies in southwest Georgia and Miami, Florida jointly began an extensive
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`investigation involving a large cocaine distribution scheme. As part of this
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`inquiry, between April and June 2013, the agents obtained three 30-day court-
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`authorized interceptions of calls on a cell phone used by Perry. During this period,
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`the agents intercepted thousands of calls, including many discussing drug
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`production and sales. Information drawn from the Perry wiretaps led to court-
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`authorized spinoff wiretaps, including one in December 2013, which focused on
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`Roger Ross, who was Perry’s source of cocaine.
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`Many of the calls ranged from discussions about cooking cocaine to setting
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`up potential sales. Three calls from April 13, 2013 are illustrative. The day started
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`with a call between Perry and Odell Cleveland (a named co-conspirator). Among
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`other things, Perry told Cleveland that he had “that Lulu for your ass,” using the
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`code word “Lulu” for powder cocaine. Perry then called Joseph Davenport (also a
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`named co-conspirator) and told him that they needed to meet. Shortly thereafter,
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`Perry spoke to Ross, his Miami supplier, and said that the powder cocaine was
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`“good” and “dropping dem draws quick.” At trial, Kevin Lee -- who was the
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`narcotics and vice commander of the Thomas County Sheriff’s Office, a task force
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`officer working with the DEA, and the chief investigator in this case -- testified
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`that “dropping dem draws quick” meant it was “easy to convert [] from powder
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`cocaine into crack cocaine.” Ross then asked Perry if he wanted “some more” and
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`Perry said yes. Perry also told Ross that “Ole Bro Bro he fixing to come get at me
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`. . . so Imma need.” Agent Lee testified that “Ole Bro Bro” referred to Joseph
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`Davenport (a named co-conspirator and co-defendant) and that Perry was telling
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`Ross he would need more cocaine in the future. On the same call, Ross told Perry
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`that he was going to “have nephew do that and . . . hit ya up . . . later on.” Agent
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`Lee offered that “nephew” referred to Ross’s cousin1 and courier, Chad Ragin,
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`who would deliver more cocaine.
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`The intercepted telephone calls also led to the arrests of several co-
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`conspirators and the seizure of drugs and money. Thus, for example, on May 4,
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`2013, the wiretap surveillance team intercepted a phone call between Perry and
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`Davenport. The two co-conspirators discussed their progress getting “one” from
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`an unnamed man, which they could sell and charge “14 to make [] a dollar a
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`piece.” Agent Lee testified that the men were discussing buying one ounce of
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`powder cocaine from Vert Washington (another co-conspirator) and selling it for
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`$1,400, in order to make $100 each. On May 16, agent Lee received a call from an
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`informant, who led Lee to a convenience store parking lot where Davenport and
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`Washington were sitting in a vehicle. When agent Lee arrived, after obtaining
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`1 In a written statement following his arrest, Ragin refers to Ross as his cousin. However, at
`several points in the taped conversations and at trial, Ragin is referred to as Ross’s nephew.
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`consent to search, he found in the vehicle in plain view a cardboard tube containing
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`three or four bags of cocaine. The next day, the team intercepted another call from
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`Davenport to Perry. During the call, Davenport explained that he and Washington
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`had been stopped by the police and that the police had found, and seized, cocaine --
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`specifically “[a]bout three halves and . . . some powder” -- from the vehicle.
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`Later that month, the surveillance team intercepted telephone calls between
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`Perry and Darnel Anderson.2 In one call, on May 28, 2013, Anderson asked Perry
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`to bring “two by here,” which, agent Lee later explained, referred to two circles of
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`crack cocaine. The next day, Anderson called Perry again and told him to “go
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`ahead bring me another.” The same day, the team received a tip that Perry would
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`be making a drug delivery to an unknown buyer. Dewayne Pearson, an
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`investigator with the Cairo, Georgia Police Department, set up surveillance near
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`Perry’s residence and followed him to a car wash, where Perry met with Anderson.
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`Pearson saw the two men enter a building for roughly five minutes before walking
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`back to Perry’s truck. Perry reached for something inside his truck and then
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`returned to the building with Anderson for a few more minutes. Perry left, and
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`“just moments” later, police returned to the car wash with a warrant for Anderson’s
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`arrest. As Anderson fled the scene, a pursuing officer saw him throw a shoe box
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`2 Darnel Anderson died prior to Perry and Ragin’s trial.
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`onto the roof of a nearby residence. When the box was recovered, the officer
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`found over 95 grams of crack cocaine inside.
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`In December 2013, the team intercepted phone calls between Perry and Ross
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`that discussed Perry’s efforts to collect money he owed to Ross. During one of
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`them, on December 16, 2013, Perry explained that “it’s slow motion around here”
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`and that he wasn’t where he “need[ed] to be,” which agent Lee told the jury meant
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`that Perry hadn’t collected enough money to repay Ross. Ross pushed back,
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`offering that Perry was making Ross look “real, real, real shady right now,” and
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`that “this cat” was calling him “six or seven times, back to back, back to back,
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`back to back.” Agent Lee explained that Ross was “looking bad to his source of
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`supply” because Ross couldn’t pay. Perry responded that Ross should “just let him
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`know everybody okay it’s just slow.”
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`The next day, the team intercepted a call between Ross and Ragin. This
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`time, Ragin asked Ross if he’d spoken to Perry and the two discussed Ragin’s plan
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`to travel to Cairo, Georgia. Then, on December 21, Ross called Perry again,
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`asking about the money Perry owed him. Perry told Ross that he had “a dub,” or
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`$20,000, as Lee explained it. Ross expressed disappointment with the amount, but
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`said he had “to get whatever [he] can get . . . right now.” The next day, Ross
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`called Perry to tell him that Ragin would be driving from Miami to Cairo in order
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`to collect the money. During this call, Perry told Ross that he was placing tape
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`around the cash and the sound of wrapping tape around the money could be heard
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`on the phone call.
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`That day, December 22, law enforcement agents surveilled Perry’s residence
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`in Cairo, Georgia. They spotted Ragin’s vehicle. On his way back to Florida,
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`Ragin was pulled over for speeding while driving through southern Georgia.
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`Officers discovered in the car a package wrapped in duct tape containing $18,870
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`in cash, and another $840 in cash on Ragin’s person. Ragin followed the agents
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`back to the station in his own car, but had the presence of mind to call Ross on the
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`way, explaining that he (Ragin) had been stopped by the police and that he
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`believed “they watching that boy[’s] house,” or that the police were watching
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`Perry’s residence. Ross then called Perry in order to warn him to “keep [his] eyes
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`open” and “look[] out” and described the cash seizure.
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`At the police station, Ragin told the agents that the cash was his, but that he
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`earned the money by selling cars. The government later initiated forfeiture
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`proceedings against the money, prompting Ragin to produce an affidavit from
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`Nader Aweidh, who swore that he purchased a vehicle from Ragin for $20,000.
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`However, the team intercepted a series of phone calls between Ross and Ragin
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`discussing different explanations for the money. For example, during one call
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`Ross told Ragin that they could find “somebody that could come back and say that,
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`hey look I loaned him this money to go ahead and try to get a car that he wanted.”
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`Ragin then proposed to “say it’s my money” because “I got the lawsuit.” At trial,
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`Aweidh testified, for the government, that his affidavit was not true and that he
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`only signed it “as a favor” to Ragin.
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`On September 11, 2014, a federal grand jury sitting in the Middle District of
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`Georgia charged Eddie Lee Perry, Ragin, Ross, Davenport, Washington,
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`Cleveland, and three other co-conspirators -- Xavier Jordan, Brandon Perry,3 and
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`Michael Perry4 -- with conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine and
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`crack cocaine beginning on or about January 1, 2010, and continuing until on or
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`about December 31, 2013, “the exact dates being unknown to the Grand Jury,” in
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`violation of 21 U.S.C. §§ 841(a)(1), 841(b)(1)(A)(ii), (iii), 846. Perry was also
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`charged in thirteen substantive counts with the use of a communication facility in
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`furtherance of a drug crime, in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 843(b). Ragin was charged
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`in two additional counts with the use of a communication facility in furtherance of
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`a drug crime, in violation of 21 U.S.C. § 843(b); one count of conspiring to falsify
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`records in a federal investigation, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371 in connection
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`with 18 U.S.C. § 1519; and two substantive counts of falsifying records, in
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`violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1519.
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`3 Brandon Perry is Eddie Lee Perry’s son.
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` Michael Perry is Eddie Lee Perry’s brother.
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`Perry, Ragin, and Davenport were tried together in a case that lasted seven
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`days.5 The tapes from the government’s wiretap made up the vast majority of the
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`evidence presented and included 76 calls intercepted from Perry’s cell phone and
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`24 additional cellular phone calls intercepted from Ross’s phone. Notably, the
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`defendants did not object to the introduction of almost all of these phone calls.
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`Counsel for Perry raised one hearsay objection to one phone call Perry received
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`from Dexter Young on April 18, 2013. He claimed that Young was not present in
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`court and would not testify, therefore the entire conversation was inadmissible
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`hearsay. The district court overruled the objection. Other than this one hearsay
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`claim, no other objections were raised to the admissibility of the other 99 recorded
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`conversations.6
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`The government’s main witness was agent Lee, who testified at considerable
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`length. Agent Lee was qualified as an expert “in coded drug language and
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`methods of trafficking, as well as the manufacture of crack cocaine from powder
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`cocaine.” As we’ve described, the government introduced 100 tape recorded
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`conversations into evidence along with transcripts during the course of Lee’s
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`testimony. When relevant, he was asked about and opined on the meaning of
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`5 Ross and the others were tried separately.
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` After the calls were admitted, Perry’s counsel objected to the government’s questioning of
`agent Lee concerning two calls between Perry and individuals not named in the indictment,
`arguing that the calls were not relevant. The district court overruled both objections.
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`certain drug “code” words used by Perry and the others. Perry’s counsel objected
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`to the scope of Lee’s testimony only one time, when Lee testified about a call
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`between Perry and Ross on December 16, 2013. Perry claimed that Lee’s
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`testimony invaded “the purview of the jury” by interpreting common English. The
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`district court overruled the objection. Perry’s counsel offered another objection to
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`Lee’s testimony on the ground that he was speculating about the meaning of one
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`conversation, but did not argue that this testimony invaded the province of the jury.
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`The government also introduced Rule 404(b) crimes, wrongs, or acts
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`evidence for both Perry and Ragin, involving events that fell outside the timeframe
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`of the charged conspiracy. For Perry, the government moved to introduce the
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`factual basis surrounding his earlier federal conviction for the distribution of crack
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`cocaine in southern Georgia. Perry objected, arguing that the evidence was unduly
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`prejudicial and would “give[] an unfair advantage[]” to the government. The
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`district court disagreed, finding that the probative value of the evidence was not
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`outweighed by the danger of undue prejudice. But, to limit any prejudicial impact,
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`the court directed the parties to omit any reference to Perry having been convicted
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`or having entered a guilty plea.
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`While Perry disagreed with the district court’s ruling, he agreed that the
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`following stipulation conformed to the district court’s ruling about what limited
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`information could be included in the 404(b) proffer. The stipulation provided to
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`the jury read this way:
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`Members of the jury, the United States and the Defendant Perry
`stipulate and agree that Defendant Perry made the following sworn
`statement in a prior court proceeding: “From on or about January 1,
`1996, to on or about April 3, 2004, Eddie Lee Perry, Jr. was involved
`in the distribution of multi-ounce quantities of crack cocaine. During
`this timeframe, the Defendant was supplied with cocaine by various
`sources which included Michael Tise. The defendant sold crack
`cocaine at various locations in the Cairo, Georgia area.
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`On April 3, 2004, Terrence Williams under the control of law
`enforcement made a controlled buy of cocaine base and cocaine from
`the defendant, Eddie Lee Perry, Jr. The buy was preserved on audio
`tape. The cocaine base purchased from the defendant on this date
`tested positive for a total of 93.4 grams and the cocaine tested positive
`for a total of 134.4 grams.
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`After the sale on April 3, 2004 was consummated the officers
`converged at 1137 11th Street, Cairo, Georgia and arrested Eddie Lee
`Perry, Jr. The officers recovered the buy money that Williams used to
`obtain the cocaine from Perry, Jr. The officer[s] executed a search at
`212 Humble Street, the home of Eddie Lee Perry, Jr[.] and recovered
`numerous boxes of sandwich baggies, two cups containing cocaine
`residue and a scale.
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`As for Ragin, the government’s Rule 404(b) evidence related to his arrest in
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`this case, which occurred on September 23, 2014, at his home in Florida. During
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`the arrest, law enforcement agents discovered 890 grams of cocaine, 947 grams of
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`heroin, and two handguns. They also found a bag containing drug paraphernalia,
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`including a money counter and scales, and over $16,000. After being arrested,
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`Ragin made an inculpatory statement that was received in evidence against him.
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`Ragin admitted that he held the drugs for co-defendant Ross:
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`The cocaine and heroin you found at my house belongs to my cousin,
`Roger Ross. Ross paid me to keep it for him. I placed the cocaine
`and heroin where you found it. He gave me a whole key (kilogram)
`of cocaine. He gave me more than the amount of heroin. He comes
`over and gets ounces of heroin at a time. I’ve been keeping cocaine
`and heroin at my house for Roger Ross for about two or three months.
`Roger has given me 3 kilos of heroin and one [kilo] of cocaine to keep
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`The jury found Perry, Ragin, and Davenport guilty on all counts. It returned
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`a special verdict, finding that Perry conspired with the intent to distribute cocaine
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`weighing more than 5 kilograms and cocaine base weighing more than 280 grams,
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`and that Ragin conspired with the intent to distribute cocaine weighing less than
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`500 grams. Perry was sentenced to 240 months in prison on the conspiracy count,
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`and 96 months on the remaining counts, to run concurrently for a total sentence of
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`240 months. The court also imposed a mandatory assessment of $1,400 and a ten-
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`year period of supervised release.
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`At Ragin’s sentencing, the district court considered the drugs and guns
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`found during Ragin’s arrest as “relevant conduct” under the Sentencing Guidelines,
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`yielding a total offense level of 34 and a sentencing range of 168 to 210 months.7
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`The court sentenced Ragin to 180 months’ imprisonment on the conspiracy count;
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`7 The probation officer explained at the hearing that without this enhancement, Ragin would
`have a total offense level of 28 and a sentencing range of 87 to 108 months’ imprisonment.
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`96 months in prison on the two communication counts; and 60 months on the
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`counts related to the falsification of records. The sentences on each of the counts
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`were to run concurrently, yielding a total prison term of 180 months. Additionally,
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`the court imposed a mandatory assessment of $600 and a six-year period of
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`supervised release.
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`This consolidated appeal followed.
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`II.
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`Perry raises several claims concerning the admissibility of the expert
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`testimony of agent Kevin Lee. Perry argues that the district court erroneously
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`qualified Lee as an expert in coded drug language, and that Lee improperly offered
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`opinion testimony beyond his expert knowledge. In the process, he wrongfully
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`invaded the province of the jury. We are unpersuaded.
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`We review a district court’s evidentiary decisions concerning the
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`admissibility of expert testimony for abuse of discretion, which means we will not
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`reverse unless the ruling is “manifestly erroneous.” United States v. Barton, 909
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`F.3d 1323, 1330 (11th Cir. 2018) (quoting United States v. Frazier, 387 F.3d 1244,
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`1259 (11th Cir. 2004) (en banc)). Federal Rule of Evidence 702 controls the
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`admissibility of expert testimony. The trial court is required to consider whether:
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`(1) the expert is qualified to testify competently regarding the matters
`he intends to address; (2) the methodology by which the expert
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`reaches his conclusions is sufficiently reliable as determined by the
`sort of inquiry mandated in Daubert; and (3) the testimony assists the
`trier of fact, through the application of scientific, technical, or
`specialized expertise, to understand the evidence or to determine a
`fact in issue.
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`Frazier, 387 F.3d at 1260.
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`In United States v. Holt, we “affirmed the admission of expert testimony by
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`law enforcement officers interpreting drug codes and jargon.” 777 F.3d 1234,
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`1265 (11th Cir. 2015) (collecting cases). In that case, the defendant lodged a
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`similar objection to the qualification of the government’s lead agent as an expert
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`witness offering opinion testimony about coded drug language. Id. at 1250–51.
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`We held that the district court did not err in admitting the agent’s expert testimony
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`because the trial court found she was qualified “based on, most notably, her
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`extensive involvement in this particular investigation . . . as well as her training,
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`experience in previous wiretaps, and general investigative experience during her
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`six years as a DEA Agent.” Id. at 1265. The agent formed her opinions “based on
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`her training, experience, discussions with cooperating co-conspirators, general
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`knowledge of common drug prices and quantities, review of nearly all of the
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`communications in this case, and the context of each particular communication.”
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`Id. at 1265–66.
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`So too here. Like the lead agent in Holt, agent Lee had substantial
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`experience in narcotics investigations -- he worked in law enforcement for 19 years
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`and participated in thousands of narcotics investigations, he interviewed thousands
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`of defendants and confidential informants, and assisted in numerous wiretap
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`investigations which led him to review literally thousands of recorded
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`conversations. And like the agent in Holt, agent Lee formed his opinions using
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`reliable methods and based on a combination of experience, general knowledge,
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`and familiarity with the intercepted communications and their context. Finally,
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`Lee reviewed all of the germane conversations about the distribution of drugs
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`drawn from the Perry wiretaps.
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`Perry argues, nevertheless, that agent Lee’s expertise does not meet the
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`requirements of Rule 702 because it was based solely on knowledge he gained as a
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`case agent in this case. Perry says that when agent Lee was asked how he
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`determined the meaning of code words, he explained that he did so “[b]ased on the
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`investigation that we’re doing at that time and what we have learned.” But Perry
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`cherry-picks from among many of agent Lee’s statements. Lee also testified that
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`he had worked “almost exclusively with narcotics-related investigations” for
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`almost twenty years, participating in “thousands” of such investigations, and that
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`60 to 70 percent of those investigations involved cocaine. He explained that he
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`developed substantial expertise in code words by conducting thousands of
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`interviews with defendants and cooperating sources, observing that it was “through
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`these types of information [that he had] learned some code words associated with
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`drug trafficking.” Lee also testified that he stayed informed of “what people are
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`doing in our community, what phrases they’re using, the dollar amounts of
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`purchases . . . If we’re doing an investigation, we may send a text or record a
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`conversation, so we see the actual words that they are using.” Although agent Lee
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`answered one question by focusing on his knowledge drawn from this
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`investigation, we cannot say that it was manifestly erroneous for the trial court to
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`qualify him as an expert on coded drug language given the entirety of his ample
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`experience. No other challenges were raised against Lee’s expertise concerning
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`methods of trafficking and the manufacture of crack cocaine from powder cocaine.
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`Perry also claims that Lee’s testimony invaded the province of the jury
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`because he offered opinions about matters that went beyond his “expert”
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`knowledge. At trial, the government used agent Lee’s testimony to introduce
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`audio recordings and transcripts of the 100 intercepted phone calls from the
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`wiretaps of Perry and Ross. When the conversation included “code,” the
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`government would ask Lee questions about the meaning of words in the recording.
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`The following exchange about a conversation between Perry and co-conspirator
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`Odell Cleveland on April 13, 2013, is representative:
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`Q: And if we could scroll down just a little bit here on page one in
`the transcript, you see there where it’s entered: I got that Lulu
`for your ass, boy? . . . Now, in the context of this conversation,
`do you believe you understand what the word Lulu means,
`based on your training and experience?
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`A: Yes, ma’am. He’s talking about . . . high quality cocaine.
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`Q: And what is the basis for your opinion that Lulu refers to high
`quality cocaine?
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`A: A lot of times they call powder cocaine a female, that girl, that
`lady, that bitch. So they’re referring to a female when they refer
`to the powder.
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`It is well established that “deciphering of coded language is helpful to the
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`jury and therefore permissible.” United States v. Hawkins, 934 F.3d 1251, 1264
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`(11th Cir. 2019). Throughout his testimony, agent Lee offered an opinion on a
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`variety of terms that were code words for drugs, including “lulu,” “teenager,” “best
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`girl in town,” “biscuit head,” “something for the nose,” “gator,” “zip,” and “zone.”
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`He also testified about the meaning of terms that referred to the quantity of drugs
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`and their price, such as “dubs,” “a G,” “a little two-dollar lick,” “a cookie,” and a
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`“ticket,” as well as terms that referred to a drug’s quality, such as “loud,” “French
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`fries,” and “straight,” and even terms related to drug sales, such as “coke jewel.”
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`This testimony was well within the scope of his expertise and was properly
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`admitted. See United States v. Emmanuel, 565 F.3d 1324, 1336 (11th Cir. 2009).
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`In other instances, agent Lee’s testimony went further, discussing the
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`meaning of ordinary English words and phrases that came up on the tapes or
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`offering opinions based on what certain language meant in the context of the
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`investigation. Thus, for example, in regard to a conversation between Perry and
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`Dexter Young on April 22, 2013:
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`Q: Now, early on in that conversation, Agent Lee, Mr. Young
`makes the statement: I ain’t making no money like this and you
`ain’t either, I mean. . . . [T]ell the ladies and gentlemen of the
`jury what you believe that means?
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`A: Again, this is referring to the two ounces that Mr. Young had
`purchased from Mr. Perry and where he couldn’t make it --
`convert it into crack cocaine like he wanted, and that’s when
`Mr. Davenport was called over and they corrected one that we
`talked about earlier. And he’s saying that he’s not messed with
`the other one, so he’s not being able to convert the powder into
`crack, so he’s not making any money.
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`And in another instance about a call between Perry and Ross on December 16,
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`2013:
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`Q: Mr. Ross says: Got me looking real crazy, man. Do you have an
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`understanding of what that means?
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`A: Yes, ma’am. Because his people are putting pressure on him to
`pay them the money. And when I’m saying “he” I’m talking
`about Mr. Ross -- for Mr. Ross to pay his people back their
`money.
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`Notably, Perry only objected to the scope of agent Lee’s testimony one time,
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`on the third day of his testimony,8 in response to Lee’s testimony about Ross
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`looking “real crazy.” Perry’s counsel argued:
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`Some of this -- I know he’s an expert in some of the street lingo, but
`some of this goes into the purview of the jury to decide what common,
`common phrases, common parlance means. He[’s] taking away from
`the jury the -- interjecting his thoughts about every single word that
`goes beyond what his expertise is, so I would object to this.
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`8 Lee did not testify for the entirety of each day. Lee was excused on the third day of his
`testimony after testifying about the Georgia wiretap and was recalled later the same day to testify
`about the Florida wiretap.
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`The government responded that “there’s a lot of things that crazy could mean in
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`the common parlance, but I’m asking this witness if it has a specific meaning in the
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`drug context.” The district court overruled the objection, and instructed the jury
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`that “certain witnesses can testify as experts, but it’s for you to determine whether
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`to accept their testimony as to what weight to give it.” Perry did not object again
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`to the scope of Lee’s testimony.
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`At oral argument, Perry conceded that his single objection was insufficient
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`to preserve the issue for abuse-of-discretion review and so plain error review
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`applies. See Hawkins, 934 F.3d at 1264. Plain error review affords us “only a
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`limited power to correct errors that were forfeited.” United States v. Rodriguez,
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`398 F.3d 1291, 1298 (11th Cir. 2005) (internal quotation omitted). A defendant
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`must establish three conditions before a court may consider exercising its
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`discretion to correct an error: “First, there must be an error that has not been
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`intentionally relinquished or abandoned. Second, the error must be plain -- that is
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`to say, clear or obvious. Third, the error must have affected the defendant’s
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`substantial rights.” Rosales-Mireles v. United States, 138 S. Ct. 1897, 1904 (2018)
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`(internal quotation omitted). To establish that the error affected his substantial
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`rights, “the defendant ordinarily must show a reasonable probability that, but for
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`the error, the outcome of the proceeding would have been different.” Id. at 1904–
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`05 (internal quotation omitted). Only after all three conditions are met may the
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`court “exercise its discretion to correct the forfeited error if the error seriously
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`affects the fairness, integrity or public reputation of judicial proceedings.” Id. at
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`1905 (internal quotation omitted); see also Rodriguez, 398 F.3d at 1298.
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`Perry has failed to establish plain error. As for the first two prongs of the
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`plain error test, we recognize that there are some parts of agent Lee’s testimony
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`that were plainly improper -- where he crossed the line from interpreting coded
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`drug language to opining about plain language, speculating, summarizing the
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`evidence or telling the jury what inferences to draw from the co

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