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`UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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`NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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`BEFORE THE HONORABLE LAUREL BEELER, MAGISTRATE JUDGE
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`DJENEBA SIDIBE, JERRY JANKOWSKI, )
`SUSAN HANSEN, DAVID HERMAN, )
`OPTIMUM GRAPHICS, INC., and )
`JOHNSON POOL & SPA, on behalf of )
`themselves and all others )
`similarly situated, )
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` Plaintiffs, )
` VS. ) NO. 12-cv-4854-LB
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`SUTTER HEALTH, )
` ) San Francisco, California
` Defendant. )
`___________________________________)
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` Wednesday, February 9, 2022
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`TRANSCRIPT OF TRIAL PROCEEDINGS
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`APPEARANCES:
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`For Plaintiffs:
` CONSTANTINE CANNON PC
` 335 Madison Avenue
` Ninth Floor
` New York, New York 10017
` BY: MATTHEW L. CANTOR, ESQ.
` JEAN KIM, ESQ.
` LLOYD CONSTANTINE, ESQ.
` JAMES J. KOVACS, ESQ.
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`Reported By: BELLE BALL, CSR 8785, CRR, RDR
` DEBRA L. PAS, CSR 11916, CRR, RMR, RPR
` Official Reporters, U.S. District Court
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` (Appearances continued, next page)
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`APPEARANCES, CONTINUED:
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`For Plaintiffs:
` FARMER BROWNSTEIN JAEGER GOLDSTEIN
` KLEIN & SIEGEL LLP
` 235 Montgomery Street
` Suite 835
` San Francisco, California 94104
` BY: DAVID C. BROWNSTEIN, ESQ.
` DAVID M. GOLDSTEIN, ESQ.
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` THE MEHDI FIRM, PC
` One Market
` Spear Tower, Suite 3600
` San Francisco, California 94105
` BY: AZRA Z. MEHDI, ESQ.
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` STEYER LOWENTHAL BOODROOKAS
` ALVAREZ & SMITH LLP
` 235 Pine Street
` 15th Floor
` San Francisco, California 94104
` BY: ALLAN STEYER, ESQ.
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` PEARSON SIMON & WARSHAW LLP
` 350 Sansome Street
` Suite 680
` San Francisco, California 94104
` BY: JILL M. MANNING, ESQ.
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`For Defendant:
` JONES DAY
` 555 South Flower Street
` 50th Floor
` Los Angeles, California 90071
` BY: JEFFREY ALAN LEVEE, ESQ.
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` JONES DAY
` 555 California Street
` 26th Floor
` San Francisco, California 94104
` BY: DAVID C. KIERNAN, ESQ.
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` JONES DAY
` 1755 Embarcadero Road
` Palo Alto, California 94303
` BY: CATHERINE T. ZENG, ESQ.
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`(Appearances continued, next page)
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`APPEARANCES, CONTINUED:
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`For Defendant:
` BARTKO ZANKEL BUNZEL & MILLER
` One Embarcadero Center
` Suite 800
` San Francisco, California 94111
` BY: ROBERT H. BUNZEL, ESQ.
` OLIVER Q. DUNLAP, ESQ.
`Also Present:
` DANIELA ALMEIDA
` PAM MARINO
` DAVID KLEIN
` STEVE TUHOLSKI
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`THE CLERK: If I could have you all stand and please
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`THE CLERK: Thank you. Please be seated.
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`THE COURT: All right. Good morning, everybody.
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`Thank you for being here.
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`So that is a little bit by way of the safety.
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`My name is Laurel Beeler. I'm the trial judge assigned to
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`trial, and I'll tell you more about that in a minute.
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`But I've introduced myself. I'm going to introduce other
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`You met Elaine Kabiling, who is my Courtroom Deputy. So
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`jury and is the person who can answer your questions.
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`Elaine can help navigate all of that. So that's her job.
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`This is Debra Pas, who is one of our two court reporters.
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`The other is named Belle Ball. And their job is to take down
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`the case as part of the process here today, and I'll talk about
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`So this is a civil case brought against Sutter Health --
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`"Sutter" for short -- by several individuals and businesses on
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`Sutter denies these claims and maintains it has not
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`Plaintiffs assert that the benefits Sutter claims do not
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`introducing people at your table and yourself?
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`MR. CANTOR: Can everyone hear me?
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`Good morning. Thank you for being here. My name is
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`Matthew Cantor, and I'm a partner at the law firm of
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`Constantine Cannon. I'm joined today by my partner Jean Kim.
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`MS. KIM: Hi.
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`MR. CANTOR: Our jury consultant, Daniel Cooper.
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`My colleague, James Kovacs.
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`Our co-counsel, Jill Manning.
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`MR. CANTOR: My partner, Lloyd Constantine.
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`MR. CONSTANTINE: Hi.
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`our co-counsel Allan Steyer.
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`Thank you.
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`THE COURT: All right. Mr. Bunzel, maybe introduce
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`THE COURT: Okay. So what -- I'll just tell you a
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`Sometimes they argue; but when they argue, that's not evidence.
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`So this is the instruction that we read jurors when we
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`Members of the jury, it is your duty to find the facts
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`At the end of the trial, I will give you final
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`Thank you very much for putting in all the time that
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`that you received. It saves a lot of time. We appreciate your
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`questions. What everyone is trying to do is just make sure
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`And thank you, Elaine, for arranging the microphone.
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`That's great.
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`So Mister -- plaintiffs go first. That's just how it
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`THE COURT: Sure. We can put it on the record later.
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`sorry. Sometimes issues come up and we do talk about them. We
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`THE COURT: Sorry about that folks. Nothing all that
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`All right. So, Mr. Cantor, the floor is yours.
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`My name again is Matthew Cantor, and I am a partner at the
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`I'm specifically joined by my partner Jean Kim, who also
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`We wanted to thank you at the outset of this matter for
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`members.
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`antitrust law. Now, antitrust law prohibits actions that harm
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`here, because Sutter knowingly and intentionally wronged.
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`Sutter Health did so by forcing class members to pay
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`higher prices, Sutter caused class members in total to lose
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`So what is Sutter? Well, Sutter is a dominant hospital
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`Sutter owns 24 hospitals, but in many Northern California
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`This gave Sutter tremendous economic power, and Sutter
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`One of the things Mr. Cantor said or implied in his
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`That will be the evidence in the case.
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`I'm proud to represent Sutter Health with our team here.
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`We believe after you hear all the evidence in this case, you'll
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`You're going to find in this case that nothing that Sutter
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