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`Paper 31
`Date: March 28, 2018
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`SK HYNIX INC., SK HYNIX AMERICA INC., and
`SK HYNIX MEMORY SOLUTIONS INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`NETLIST, INC.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2017-00561,
`Patent 8,001,434 B1,
`Case IPR2017-005621
`Patent 8,359,501 B1
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`Before BRYAN F. MOORE, MATTHEW R. CLEMENTS, and
`SHEILA F. McSHANE, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`MOORE, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Request for Oral Argument
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
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`1 This Order applies to each of the listed cases. We exercise our discretion
`to issue one Order to be docketed in each case. The parties, however, are
`not authorized to use this caption for any subsequent papers.
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`IPR2017-00561 (Patent 8,001,434 B1)
`IPR2017-00562 (Patent 8,359,501 B1)
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`The parties have each requested an oral hearing for inter partes
`review proceedings IPR2017-00561, -00562 pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70.
`Papers 20, 22.2 Upon consideration by the panel, the parties’ requests are
`granted.
`Each party will have one hour of total time to present arguments in
`both cases. Petitioner bears the ultimate burden of proof that Patent Owner’s
`claims at issue in this review are unpatentable. Petitioner will, therefore,
`begin by presenting its case regarding the challenged claims and grounds for
`which the Board instituted trial in the proceeding. Patent Owner will then
`respond to Petitioner’s arguments. Petitioner may reserve time to respond to
`arguments presented by Patent Owner. There is no motion to amend
`pending in the subject proceeding.
`There is a strong public policy interest in making all information
`presented in these proceedings public, as the review determines the
`patentability of claims in an issued patent and, thus, affects the rights of the
`public. This policy is reflected in part, for example, in 35 U.S.C. § 316(a)(1)
`and 35 U.S.C. § 326(a)(1), which provide that the file of any inter partes
`review or post grant review be made available to the public, except that any
`petition or document filed with the intent that it be sealed shall, if
`accompanied by a motion to seal, be treated as sealed pending the outcome
`of the ruling on the motion. Accordingly, we exercise our discretion to
`make the oral hearing publically available via in-person attendance.
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`2 For expediency, IPR2017-00561 is representative and these citations are to
`IPR2017-00561.
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`IPR2017-00561 (Patent 8,001,434 B1)
`IPR2017-00562 (Patent 8,359,501 B1)
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`Specifically, the hearing will commence at 1:00 PM Eastern Time, on
`April 6th, 2017, on the ninth floor of Madison Building East, 600 Dulany
`Street, Alexandria, Virginia. The hearing will be open to the public for in-
`person attendance that will be accommodated on a first-come, first-served
`basis.
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`The Board will provide a court reporter for the hearing, and the
`reporter’s transcript will constitute the official record of the hearing.
`Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b), demonstrative exhibits must be served seven (7)
`business days before the hearing. The parties may refer to St. Jude Medical,
`Cardiology Division, Inc. v. The Board of Regents of the University of
`Michigan, IPR2013-00041, slip op. 2–5 (PTAB Jan. 27, 2014) (Paper 65),
`regarding the appropriate content of demonstrative exhibits. The parties are
`reminded that the presenter must identify clearly and specifically each
`demonstrative exhibit (e.g., by slide or screen number) referenced during the
`hearing to ensure the clarity and accuracy of the reporter’s transcript. The
`parties also shall provide the demonstrative exhibits to the Board at least two
`business days prior to the hearing by emailing them to Trials@uspto.gov.
`The parties shall email demonstrative exhibits to the Board but shall not file
`any demonstrative exhibits in this case without prior authorization from the
`Board. A hard copy of the demonstratives should be provided to the court
`reporter at the hearing.
`The parties shall confer and attempt to resolve any objections to
`demonstratives prior to involving the Board. For any issue regarding the
`proposed demonstrative exhibits that cannot be resolved after conferring
`with the opposing party, the parties may file jointly a one-page list of
`objections at least two business days prior to the date of the hearing. Any
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`such list should identify with particularity which demonstrative exhibit(s) is
`(are) subject to objection and include a short statement (no more than one
`concise sentence) of the reason for each objection. No argument or further
`explanation is permitted.
`We will consider the objections and schedule a conference call, if
`necessary, to discuss them. Otherwise, we may strike demonstrative exhibits
`that we find objectionable or reserve ruling on the objections until the
`hearing or after the hearing. Any objection to a demonstrative exhibit that is
`not presented in a timely-filed list will be considered waived. Regardless of
`any objections raised by the parties, the Board may expunge any
`demonstrative exhibits that it finds excessive in number or content.
`Questions regarding specific audio-visual equipment should be
`directed to the Board at (571) 272-9797. Requests for audio-visual
`equipment are to be made five (5) days in advance of the hearing date. The
`request is to be sent to Trials@uspto.gov. If the request is not received
`timely, the equipment may not be available on the day of the hearing.
`The parties also should note that at least one member of the panel will
`be attending the hearing electronically from a remote location, and that if a
`demonstrative is not made fully available or visible to the judge participating
`in the hearing remotely, that demonstrative will not be considered. If the
`parties have questions as to whether demonstrative exhibits would be
`sufficiently visible and available to all of the judges, the parties are invited
`to contact the Board at (571) 272-9797. The parties are also reminded that
`the presenter must identify clearly and specifically each demonstrative
`exhibit (e.g., by slide or screen number) referenced during the hearing to
`ensure the clarity and accuracy of the reporter’s transcript and the ability of
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`the judge participating in the hearing remotely to closely follow the
`presenter’s arguments.
`The Board expects lead counsel for each party to be present in person
`at the oral hearing. However, lead or backup counsel may present the
`party’s argument. If either party anticipates that its lead counsel will not be
`attending the oral argument, the parties should initiate a joint telephone
`conference with the Board no later than two business days prior to the oral
`hearing to discuss the matter.
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`IPR2017-00562 (Patent 8,359,501 B1)
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`PETITIONER:
`Joseph Micallef
`Steven Baik
`Wonjoo Suh
`SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP
`jmicallef@sidley.com
`sbaik@sidley.com
`wsuh@sidley.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
`Thomas J. Wimbiscus
`Christopher C. Winslade
`Scott P. McBride
`Ronald H. Spuhler
`Wayne H. Bradley
`MCANDREWS, HELD & MALLOY, LTD.
`twimbiscus@mcandrews-ip.com
`cwinslade@mcandrews-ip.com
`smcbride@mcandrews-ip.com
`rspuhler@mcandrews-ip.com
`wbradley@mcandrews-ip.com
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`William Meunier
`MINTZ, LEVIN, COHEN, FERRIS, GLOVSKY AND POPEO, P.C.
`wameunier@mintz.com
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