`571-272-7822
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`Paper: 28
`Entered: July 10, 2019
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`GRÜNENTHAL GMBH,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`ANTECIP BIOVENTURES II LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case PGR2018-00062
`Patent 9,707,245 B2
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`Before TONI R. SCHEINER, GRACE KARAFFA OBERMANN, and
`SHERIDAN K. SNEDDEN, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`OBERMANN, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Oral Hearing
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
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`Petitioner and Patent Owner request an oral hearing pursuant
`to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70. Papers 23, 24. Petitioner requests sixty (60) minutes
`per side to present argument. Paper 23, 1. Patent Owner requests forty-five
`(45) minutes of total time to present argument. Paper 24, 2. The requests
`are granted to the extent set forth below and subject to the following
`conditions.
`Oral argument shall commence at 10:00 AM Eastern Time on July 31,
`2019, in Hearing Room A on the 9th floor of Madison Building East, 600
`Dulany Street, Alexandria, Virginia. Each party will have sixty (60) minutes
`of total time to present argument. Petitioner bears the ultimate burden of
`proof that the patent claims at issue are unpatentable. Therefore, Petitioner
`will open the hearing by presenting its case regarding the challenged claims
`for which we instituted trial. Petitioner may reserve some of its argument
`time for rebuttal. Thereafter, Patent Owner will respond to Petitioner’s
`presentation and present the issues for which it bears the ultimate burden.
`Patent Owner may also reserve some of its argument time for rebuttal. To
`the extent Petitioner reserves rebuttal time, Petitioner then may make use of
`its rebuttal time responding to Patent Owner. To the extent Patent Owner
`reserves rebuttal time, Patent Owner then may make use of its rebuttal time
`responding to Petitioner.
`The Board will provide a court reporter for the hearing and the
`reporter’s transcript shall constitute the official record of the hearing. The
`hearing will be open to the public for in-person attendance that will be
`accommodated on a first-come, first-served basis. If the parties have any
`concern about disclosing confidential information, they are requested to
`contact the Board at least five (5) business days in advance of the hearing to
`discuss the matter.
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`Demonstrative exhibits are not evidence sufficient to prove underlying
`facts, but, rather, serve as visual aids to facilitate the presentation of
`argument at an oral hearing. See Duncan v. Dep’t of the Air Force, 674 F.3d
`1359, 1363 (Fed. Cir. 2012) (discussing the nature and proper purpose of
`demonstrative exhibits). Demonstrative exhibits must not include new
`evidence and each must include citations to the record sufficient to establish
`that the exhibit contains no new argument or evidence not already of record
`in the proceeding(s) in which it is offered. The parties are directed to serve
`demonstrative exhibits on opposing counsel at least seven (7) business days
`before the hearing date. Please also provide a courtesy copy of any
`demonstrative exhibits to the Board at least five (5) business days prior to
`the hearing by emailing them to Trials@uspto.gov. The parties are
`directed to refrain from filing demonstrative exhibits in the record of
`this proceeding.
`The Board expects that the parties will meet and confer in good faith
`to resolve any objections to demonstrative exhibits, but if such objections
`cannot be resolved, the parties may file any objections to demonstrative
`exhibits with the Board at least two (2) business days before the hearing.
`Any objection to demonstrative exhibits that is not timely presented will be
`considered waived. The objections should identify with particularity which
`demonstratives are subject to objection and include a short (one sentence or
`less) statement of the reason for each objection. No argument or further
`explanation is permitted. The Board will consider the objections and
`schedule a conference call if deemed necessary. Otherwise, the Board will
`reserve ruling on the objections until the oral argument. The parties are
`directed to St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Division, Inc. v. The Board of
`Regents of the University of Michigan, IPR2013-00041 (PTAB January 27,
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`2014) (Paper 65), for guidance regarding the appropriate content of
`demonstrative exhibits.
`The parties should be prepared for the possibility that at least one
`member of the panel may attend the hearing electronically from a remote
`location and may not be able to view the projection screen in the hearing
`room. If a demonstrative exhibit is not made available or visible to the
`judge(s) presiding over the hearing remotely, that demonstrative will not be
`considered. Counsel must identify clearly and specifically each
`demonstrative exhibit (e.g., by slide or screen number) referenced during the
`hearing to ensure the clarity and accuracy of the reporter’s transcript and for
`the benefit of the judge(s) presiding over the hearing remotely.
`No live testimony from any witness will be taken at the oral argument.
`The Board expects lead counsel for each party to be present in person at the
`oral hearing. However, any counsel of record may present the party’s
`argument. If either party expects that its lead counsel will not attend the oral
`hearing, the parties should initiate a joint telephone conference with the
`Board no later than two (2) business days prior to the oral hearing to discuss
`the matter.
`A party may request remote video attendance for one or more of its
`other attendees to view the hearing from any USPTO location. The
`available locations include the Texas Regional Office in Dallas, Texas; the
`Rocky Mountain Regional Office in Denver, Colorado; the Elijah J. McCoy
`Midwest Regional Office in Detroit, Michigan; and the Silicon Valley Office
`in San Jose, CA. To request remote video viewing, a party must send an
`email message to Trials@uspto.gov ten (10) business days prior to the
`hearing, indicating the requested location and the number planning to view
`the hearing from the remote location. The Board will notify the parties if the
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`request for video viewing is granted. Note that it may not be possible to
`grant the request due to the availability of resources.
`Per the recent update to the Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, either
`party may request a pre-hearing conference (Office Patent Trial Practice
`Guide, August 2018 Update, 83 Fed. Reg. 39,989 (Aug. 13, 2018) (found at
`the following link to the USPTO website: https://go.usa.gov/xU7GP)).
`Requests for a pre-hearing conference must be made by July 17, 2019. To
`request such a conference, an email should be sent to Trials@uspto.gov
`including several dates and times of availability for one or both parties, as
`appropriate, that are generally no later than three (3) business days prior to
`the oral hearing. Please refer to the Guide for more information on the
`prehearing conference.
`Both parties request permission to use certain audio/visual equipment
`to display exhibits during the oral hearing. Paper 23, 1; Paper 24, 2. Those
`requests, and any other special requests for audiovisual equipment, should
`be directed to Trials@uspto.gov. A party may also indicate any special
`requests related to appearing at an in-person oral hearing, such as a request
`to accommodate physical needs that limit mobility or visual or hearing
`impairments, and indicate how the PTAB may accommodate the special
`request. Any special requests will not be honored unless presented in a
`separate communication not less than five (5) days before the hearing,
`directed to the above email address.
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`It is
`ORDERED that the parties’ requests for oral hearing are granted
`subject to the conditions set forth in this Order; and
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`FURTHER ORDERED that oral hearing, conducted pursuant to the
`procedures outlined above, shall commence at 10:00 AM Eastern Time on
`July 31, 2019.
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`PETITIONER:
`Bruce C. Haas
`BCHaas@Venable.com
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`Justin Oliver
`JOliver@Venable.com
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`Katherine E. Adams
`KEAdams@Venable.com
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`Daniel J. Minion
`DMinion@Venable.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`Brent A. Johnson
`BJohnson@mabr.com
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`R. Parrish Freeman
`pfreeman@mabr.com
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`Michael Katz
`mkatz@mabr.com
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